WillQuantrill
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Following your blog closely as I am growing the same Burley but I'm about 6 weeks behind you. Good luck.
Oldfellainspain 2024 Grow Log.
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oldfellainspain
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I transplanted into 3 gallon bags too early, and I grossly overwatered at first. I don't think I'll get more than 8-10 leaves per plant, but I learnt hell of a lot.
Looking for bigger plants on my second grow. I hope your grow goes well.
oldfellainspain
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Most of what I think are the Spectrum bright leaf plants have flowered, and I've now topped them. Most plants are about two feet tall.
What I think are the slower growing KY17 burley plants are only about a foot high. No sign of flowers, but some bottom leaves look like they are ripe (photo).
I think 12-14 hrs per day under lights, before going outside in winter months with overcast days and short hours of sunlight, has confused the plants. It's certainly confused me. Any comments welcome.
What I think are the slower growing KY17 burley plants are only about a foot high. No sign of flowers, but some bottom leaves look like they are ripe (photo).
I think 12-14 hrs per day under lights, before going outside in winter months with overcast days and short hours of sunlight, has confused the plants. It's certainly confused me. Any comments welcome.
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oldfellainspain
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Can anyone help me here? An answer to this question will solve all my labelling problems. This plant is either a KY17 Burley or a Spectrum Bright Leaf. After looking at photos on the internet I'm none the wiser.
I want to air dry the burley and sun dry the bright leaf, so it's pretty important that I know which is which.
I would really appreciate some help with this.
Note to myself: Use plastic labels, not lolly sticks from now on.
I want to air dry the burley and sun dry the bright leaf, so it's pretty important that I know which is which.
I would really appreciate some help with this.
Note to myself: Use plastic labels, not lolly sticks from now on.
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Do you have a mud lug from each variety you could sample and compare. Perhaps dry out a couple, tear off a chunk and stuff it in the pipe to determine if the flavor is burley or bright leaf.
oldfellainspain
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Good idea. Never gave that a thought.
Any other ideas, anyone?
Here is the original page from @polygon55:
"Spectrum
(Kerti x Large Leaf 38 x Yellow Leaf 36). Transcarpathia. Burley. Medium late. My aging period is 72 days. The bush is about 1.4 m high. The shape of the plant is cylindrical. The flower is pink. The leaf is sessile, light green with whitening throughout the entire blade when ripe, the leaf blade is oval. The number of leaves is 24-26, the length of the middle leaf is 50 cm, width is 30.0 cm."
Spectrum is a white-stem burley! The listing at Northwood Seeds is incorrect.
Bob
EDIT: Northwood Seeds obtained their original Spectrum seed from @polygon55.
"Spectrum
(Kerti x Large Leaf 38 x Yellow Leaf 36). Transcarpathia. Burley. Medium late. My aging period is 72 days. The bush is about 1.4 m high. The shape of the plant is cylindrical. The flower is pink. The leaf is sessile, light green with whitening throughout the entire blade when ripe, the leaf blade is oval. The number of leaves is 24-26, the length of the middle leaf is 50 cm, width is 30.0 cm."
Spectrum is a white-stem burley! The listing at Northwood Seeds is incorrect.
Bob
EDIT: Northwood Seeds obtained their original Spectrum seed from @polygon55.
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oldfellainspain
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Thanks Bob. That's the last thing I expected to hear, but quite a relief, as I now don't have to worry about sun colour curing. Every plant will be stalk cut and air dried when the time is right. I can buy in some virginia whole leaf for the blend I'm looking for.
oldfellainspain
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On about half of the plants, the bottom two leaves are turning pure white. Leaves three and four look to be going the same way. The leaves are quite thick and not at all sickly. After reading the above post from deluxestogie, I'm guessing these are the Spectrum plants.
Question: Do I prime and hang these leaves, or wait until top leaves start to go yellow/white and stalk cut the whole plant?
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You can do it either way.
I think you will be impressed with the beautiful, brown color that those white leaves will eventually develop during color-curing.
Bob
oldfellainspain
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Thanks Bob. Will probably prime in the next couple of days. Very interested to see how they cure.
oldfellainspain
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Although the 1st and 2nd leaves are pretty small on most Spectrum plants, I've primed and hung them. Apart from being keen to see how these Spectrum white leaves colour cure, it also gives me a chance to get used to how the temperature and RH behave in my curing tent/shed.
All the leaves on the KY17 plants that I had to top because of early flowering, are becoming rugose and mottled. All in all things are going well enough.
Seedlings for a second grow also doing well.
All the leaves on the KY17 plants that I had to top because of early flowering, are becoming rugose and mottled. All in all things are going well enough.
Seedlings for a second grow also doing well.
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Because of the chlorophyll metabolism defect inherent in the so-called "white-stem" burley varieties, they appear cured before all the albuminous proteins and carbs are fully cleared. Give them an extra two or three weeks after they start to look tempting to try.
Bob
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oldfellainspain
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Thanks Bob. I'll heed that advice. I am impatient. Luckily, I'm a good way off having plants ready to transplant for my second grow.
oldfellainspain
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Just had one hell of a thunderstorm with torrential rain. So pleased that I had holes drilled and corked in the trays, as they have filled to the brim. I got pretty wet uncorking, but the trays emptied pretty quickly. I'm on a hill so all okay, but a half mile away on the coast, things are a little damper.
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Glad to hear you are okay.
Bob
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From photos on internet, it seems grasshoppers are the most likely culprits.
oldfellainspain
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I have one plant out of twenty showing what I think is Tobacco Ring Spot Virus. It is the only plant that didn't have just new potting soil. It was a mixture of new and old.
Do I need to destroy this plant?
I've removed the four infected leaves. No other leaves are showing signs of it.
I've read two posts with photos in deluxestogie's 2021 grow log that look similar. Other plants that are touching don't show any signs of it. If this is TRSV, how is it transmitted?
Do I need to destroy this plant?
I've removed the four infected leaves. No other leaves are showing signs of it.
I've read two posts with photos in deluxestogie's 2021 grow log that look similar. Other plants that are touching don't show any signs of it. If this is TRSV, how is it transmitted?
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"The tobacco ringspot virus (genus: Nepovirus, family: Secoviridae) is localized to China and North America where it causes insignificant yield loss. It is transmitted nonpersistently by nematodes (Xiphinema americanum), aphids, and mites."
Charles Karavina, Albert Changaya, in Viral Diseases of Field and Horticultural Crops, 2024
I would not destroy the plants.
Bob
Charles Karavina, Albert Changaya, in Viral Diseases of Field and Horticultural Crops, 2024
I would not destroy the plants.
Bob
