notcrack
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Can someone post a recipe book recipe up for making chew. I have seen it mentioned, but I literally have no idea where to start.
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beachnut chew.
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Destem/shred tobacco
Heat up 3 cups apple juice (basic apple juice)
Boil down to ~ 2 cups in the pan,
mix in another 1 cup of juice
boil down so there is 2 cups of juice in the pan
add 4 heaping tablespoons of molasses
stir those ingredients altogether so that it's mixed in (FTT blocks this word, but h-o-m-ogeneous)
remove from heat, add leaf
(make sure it has stopped boiling)
*Don't cook the leaf, "bake" the brine into the leaf
Soak the leaves in the brine for a few days (in a ziplock bag) (really takes down the harshness of the tobacco if there is any)
set it out to dry on a cookie sheet (stay away from dust etc that could contaminate the tobacco)
Let it air dry, if possible with a small fan to help the tobacco dry
Enjoy
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Destem/shred tobacco
Heat up 3 cups apple juice (basic apple juice)
Boil down to ~ 2 cups in the pan,
mix in another 1 cup of juice
boil down so there is 2 cups of juice in the pan
add 4 heaping tablespoons of molasses
stir those ingredients altogether so that it's mixed in (FTT blocks this word, but h-o-m-ogeneous)
remove from heat, add leaf
(make sure it has stopped boiling)
*Don't cook the leaf, "bake" the brine into the leaf
Soak the leaves in the brine for a few days (in a ziplock bag) (really takes down the harshness of the tobacco if there is any)
set it out to dry on a cookie sheet (stay away from dust etc that could contaminate the tobacco)
Let it air dry, if possible with a small fan to help the tobacco dry
Enjoy
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notcrack
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Thanks for that Michibacy. I'll have a look into trying this. We don't really get chew in England, so I have never even seen it in person let alone tried it. Is there any particular tobacco leaf that is best for this??
A man hasn't lived until he's tried Chew. (flak incoming for saying that in 3....2....1....) I use burley, sometimes cigar leaf. Any tobacco can be used some is better though. It's up to your tongue to decide though. I like mine strong tasting, medium nicotine and won't leave my breath smelling like the bottom out of a parrots cage.
Yellow Twist Bud and Yellow Orinoco are my favorites for chew, but Air Cured Perique and most any Burley works good too.
You don't have to jump through all those hoops to make chew. Just grab a handful of shredded tobacco, add 1 Tablespoon of water, 1 Tablespoon (or more) of sugar and a flavoring of your choice. This could be mint, Apple Extract, cocoa etc. If using an extract, add 1/2 tsp, if adding cocoa add 1 Tablespoon. Put everything together in a pan and heat for about 1 minute. You are now done. You also now have a known product to work with. The next time you might find you'll want to add more sugar, or less more flaovring or less, etc. If your chew is too moist just let it set out overnight, or cook for a minute more, stirring constantly.
You don't have to jump through all those hoops to make chew. Just grab a handful of shredded tobacco, add 1 Tablespoon of water, 1 Tablespoon (or more) of sugar and a flavoring of your choice. This could be mint, Apple Extract, cocoa etc. If using an extract, add 1/2 tsp, if adding cocoa add 1 Tablespoon. Put everything together in a pan and heat for about 1 minute. You are now done. You also now have a known product to work with. The next time you might find you'll want to add more sugar, or less more flaovring or less, etc. If your chew is too moist just let it set out overnight, or cook for a minute more, stirring constantly.
notcrack
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You guys are absolute legends. I'm now going to remove all humility and ask how do you chew chewing tobacco? I know you put some in your mouth, but I'm a little confused about the juice. Do you swallow it or spit it out? Is there a store brought version anyone would recommend I try to get hold of as a yardstick??
I understand completely. That's also what I like about growing/smoking/chewing your own, there is no "right" way to do things
Most real chewers (of what I am not) will take a pretty good hunk in put it in their cheek. It is big enough that you see a bulge on the side of their cheek. These are experienced guys and if you did that you'd be puking your guts up all over the place. I'd start with a VERY small piece, perhaps half the size of an American or Canadian penny. Put it between your cheek and gum and give a gentle chew, just enough to release some juice. You will know if you over did it because to much juice too soon will make you fee like throwing up. After some experience you will be able to judge how much chew you use and how vigorously you chew it. Do not swallow the juice. You could be a man and just spit wherever you want or a lot of people will carry a used bottle around and spit into that. I like just spittin' anywhere. The trick is to start out with a very small quantity of chew and just get a little bit of juice. Most everyone who has ever chewed tobacco will have a story about their first time and it usually ends in them throwing up!
notcrack
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I'm going to try and buy some and I will make a video of my first time for everyone's enjoyment. I might as well do snuff and chew all at the same time. I'll get some leads on buying it.
Cheers for this info Jitter.
Cheers for this info Jitter.
Rayshields
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Is this in anyway related to:
If you don't have everything you want, just think of all the things that you don't have that you don't want...
Ray
You got my number on that one and I never tried it again ! John
On YouTube there is a video of some cowboy making chew that looks like Mich's recipe if you want to watch the process.
Seanz
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this sounds like something I could get into, I did try a chink of black twist but think i popped a tad too much in my mouth, She was strong,
squeezyjohn
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In reply mainly to notcrack - but also the general conversation.
There's a load of different types of mouth tobacco you can try and they're all very different - they need to be used in the right way if you're to get any enjoyment from them.
Here in the UK, coal miners used to use chewing tobacco to satisfy their nicotine cravings in an environment where a flame could ignite coal dust and trying to use nasal snuff would end up with a nose full of coal dust. The only ones available now are the Kendal made twist tobaccos by Samuel Gawith & Gawith & Hoggarth - these are strongly fire cured, strong as an ox, bitter and I suspect not the healthiest type of tobacco to put in your mouth - from experience I would rate these very likely to make a newcomer nauseous.
American chew normally comes as "loose leaf" type with brands such as beechnut, redman and stokers - all of which are highly sweetened with molasses and concentrated fruit juices which if used on a regular basis incur a risk of serious tooth decay due to the high sugar contents. They are not as strong as the Kendal twists and are normally put in the cheek and chewed lightly occasionally to release the nicotine laden juice - the excess "juice" is normally spat out as swallowing would make most people sick. Less popular types of american chew these days are "twist plug" and "plug" tobacco - the former is a pigtail twist often (but not always) with a sweet casing - the user cuts off the length they want and the bite of twist is easier to manage than the loose type but you need to chew more to release the nicotine. Plug is a kind of pressed brick of sweet tobacco that is similar to the loose leaf type.
Also in the US - dip (sometimes referred to as snuff) is a finely ground or cut tobacco which is generally fermented and includes some fire cured that is sold very moist in cans. It is normally sweet and flavoured in some way with the favourites being wintergreen, fruit, mint or spiced in the traditional way (often called straight). A pinch of this is placed in the lower lip in front of the gum beneath the lower teeth and the juice is normally spat out as it can be indigestible.
In Sweden & Norway a similar product to dip is available called snus. It is normally ground rather than cut and it is always quite salty. Snus is made from air cured tobacco only these days and instead of fermenting to release the nicotine it is pasteurised and mixed with an alkali, sodium carbonate. Some are natural tobacco flavour but other popular flavours are bergamot, juniper and liquorice. The loose form of snus is normally placed in the upper lip where it produces little juice and the juice that is produced is generally accepted as safe to swallow but some people may prefer to spit it out. Most snus sold these days is in portion form - enclosed in a small tea bag that allows the nicotine and flavour out without the mess of loose tobacco in the mouth. All swedish made snus is closely regulated to pass all existing food safety standards and as such is generally considered one of the safest ways to take tobacco.
As for home grown stuff ... small pieces of the pigtail twists I made from Black Stalk Mammoth leaves that I rescued before mould issues affected the rest of my crop taste gorgeous and natural to me chewed as they are. As a snus user I prefer to chew on them to get the flavour going then pop them in my upper lip . This tobacco is by no means aged and I am assured that age improves the flavour even when not ignited - but to me is slightly sweet naturally and has a mild aroma similar to the smell of a freshly opened pack of nice virginia cigarettes with undertones of raisins and new-mown grass. It is also pretty strong!
I hope that helps
Squeezy
There's a load of different types of mouth tobacco you can try and they're all very different - they need to be used in the right way if you're to get any enjoyment from them.
Here in the UK, coal miners used to use chewing tobacco to satisfy their nicotine cravings in an environment where a flame could ignite coal dust and trying to use nasal snuff would end up with a nose full of coal dust. The only ones available now are the Kendal made twist tobaccos by Samuel Gawith & Gawith & Hoggarth - these are strongly fire cured, strong as an ox, bitter and I suspect not the healthiest type of tobacco to put in your mouth - from experience I would rate these very likely to make a newcomer nauseous.
American chew normally comes as "loose leaf" type with brands such as beechnut, redman and stokers - all of which are highly sweetened with molasses and concentrated fruit juices which if used on a regular basis incur a risk of serious tooth decay due to the high sugar contents. They are not as strong as the Kendal twists and are normally put in the cheek and chewed lightly occasionally to release the nicotine laden juice - the excess "juice" is normally spat out as swallowing would make most people sick. Less popular types of american chew these days are "twist plug" and "plug" tobacco - the former is a pigtail twist often (but not always) with a sweet casing - the user cuts off the length they want and the bite of twist is easier to manage than the loose type but you need to chew more to release the nicotine. Plug is a kind of pressed brick of sweet tobacco that is similar to the loose leaf type.
Also in the US - dip (sometimes referred to as snuff) is a finely ground or cut tobacco which is generally fermented and includes some fire cured that is sold very moist in cans. It is normally sweet and flavoured in some way with the favourites being wintergreen, fruit, mint or spiced in the traditional way (often called straight). A pinch of this is placed in the lower lip in front of the gum beneath the lower teeth and the juice is normally spat out as it can be indigestible.
In Sweden & Norway a similar product to dip is available called snus. It is normally ground rather than cut and it is always quite salty. Snus is made from air cured tobacco only these days and instead of fermenting to release the nicotine it is pasteurised and mixed with an alkali, sodium carbonate. Some are natural tobacco flavour but other popular flavours are bergamot, juniper and liquorice. The loose form of snus is normally placed in the upper lip where it produces little juice and the juice that is produced is generally accepted as safe to swallow but some people may prefer to spit it out. Most snus sold these days is in portion form - enclosed in a small tea bag that allows the nicotine and flavour out without the mess of loose tobacco in the mouth. All swedish made snus is closely regulated to pass all existing food safety standards and as such is generally considered one of the safest ways to take tobacco.
As for home grown stuff ... small pieces of the pigtail twists I made from Black Stalk Mammoth leaves that I rescued before mould issues affected the rest of my crop taste gorgeous and natural to me chewed as they are. As a snus user I prefer to chew on them to get the flavour going then pop them in my upper lip . This tobacco is by no means aged and I am assured that age improves the flavour even when not ignited - but to me is slightly sweet naturally and has a mild aroma similar to the smell of a freshly opened pack of nice virginia cigarettes with undertones of raisins and new-mown grass. It is also pretty strong!
I hope that helps
Squeezy
Sorry I didn't see this until now Notcrack. I suggest Redman, Levi Garrett or Beachnut. I really don't think what we make will be exactly what we can buy in a store, but that's alright.
As for the juices, I spit it, sometimes I swallow, depends on how long it's been in or where I am at. Fresh juice (say chew that's been in for 10 minutes) is usually quite sweet and tolerable. If it's been in for longer (personally) it's usually quite "tobacco-ey" tasting and needs to be spit out.
I usually insert it in my lower jaw between my back teeth and my cheek (that little pocket). I suggest moving your locations around so you don't leave the gum line irritated.
jekylnz
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Abit of maple syrup would go alright wouldnt it?? I love that stuff on anything!!
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