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Very nice work. I have never tried creating a culebra, since I prefer a fatter cigar. My guess is that with the components in higher case and the ribbons tied a bit closer to the ends, you could easily get a full culebra braid.

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Also, have a look at @MarcL's from this post:

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Very nice work. I have never tried creating a culebra, since I prefer a fatter cigar. My guess is that with the components in higher case and the ribbons tied a bit closer to the ends, you could easily get a full culebra braid.

Garden20170309_2473_PartagasCulebra4_500.jpg


Also, have a look at @MarcL's from this post:

Bob
I'm pretty sure my main prob was attempting this with normally stuffed cigars, in addition to the case thing. I tried in vain to fully twist them pre- and post-ribbon and there was just no way. I'll try again with some lighter packs. I did find some commercial cigars with this partial twist, though; but I'd like to make something as radical as the classic Partagas version. I'll seek counsel from MarcL.
 
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I failed to measure the average ring size of the Partagas culebras. In retrospect (It was 4 years ago.), they were likely around 36 or 34.

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They are officially listed as: Ring Gauge: 39 · Cigar length: 146 mm / 5.75' ·

Most other brands are listed as 6x38, which is what I tried in my first attempt.

I think my next attempt will be around 5.75 x 36.
 

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I'm pretty sure my main prob was attempting this with normally stuffed cigars, in addition to the case thing. I tried in vain to fully twist them pre- and post-ribbon and there was just no way. I'll try again with some lighter packs. I did find some commercial cigars with this partial twist, though; but I'd like to make something as radical as the classic Partagas version. I'll seek counsel from MarcL.
Nicely done but, .. watching you I think your right. a closer tie as well if you want to go to the much tighter style like the Drew Estate Medusa. most are just not so tight a style but, having a firm grip at all times as well as at the point of contact helps to rein it in.
Something I did was tie a preliminary ribbon to the tuck cutter with a noose on the other end of it to get so I didn't have to let go of it. So, I could tie the second end of it.
Those linked trifecta ones are almost 8" to get that bit of extra length and, do have a specific pack where the Medusa is really very lose.
 

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Nicely done but, .. watching you I think your right. a closer tie as well if you want to go to the much tighter style like the Drew Estate Medusa. most are just not so tight a style but, having a firm grip at all times as well as at the point of contact helps to rein it in.
Something I did was tie a preliminary ribbon to the tuck cutter with a noose on the other end of it to get so I didn't have to let go of it. So, I could tie the second end of it.
Those linked trifecta ones are almost 8" to get that bit of extra length and, do have a specific pack where the Medusa is really very lose.
Cool, thanks. Did you underfill yours? I've read that that's a standard technique.
 

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Cool, thanks. Did you underfill yours? I've read that that's a standard technique.
That is what I meant to say by "watching you I think your right." when you said "my main prob was attempting this with normally stuffed cigars, in addition to the case thing."
.. now that I remember.. something else I found in a tighter braid is with all the friction comes the need to have some additional overlap to keep the wrapper in place.
 

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That is what I meant to say by "watching you I think your right." when you said "my main prob was attempting this with normally stuffed cigars, in addition to the case thing."
.. now that I remember.. something else I found in a tighter braid is with all the friction comes the need to have some additional overlap to keep the wrapper in place.
Ok thx.
 
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