First Tobacco Grow: AnxiousCowboy

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AnxiousCowboy

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First time ever growing this stuff. Third year actually gardening seriously. I moved to TN this passed year from the north east and figured, “when in Rome...”
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ANYWAY, I order a few of NorthWood’s multipacks and figured I’d get them going ASAP with some left over shitty potting mix I had. Regrets. I also hardened them off too soon I think. It got warm early here and I have just been bringing them inside only when there is a frost and think they would have done better staying inside under lights for longer than they did. It was a month and a half before I pricked them out into individual cells and should have done that sooner...but it took me awhile to find a compost source to make my own potting mix. Their growth seems to have retarded as a result but I’m hoping they arent delicate and will spring back. When is it too late in the season to start tobacco??

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This week I put 96 seedlings in their own cells and followed the guide of northwoods to keep them out of the sun a couple days after. I need to reference that guide more often so I can avoid issues like my slow seedlings start (he recommended pricking them out as soon as the seed breaks). I hit them with compost tea when they started yellowing before transplant and they are greening back up already... I think I should find myself a decent soluble fertilizer to hit them again soon. When they are this young is KCL an issue? Can I hit them once or twice with reduced strength standard miracle grow? If not, is KCL inorganic? I don’t always see a listing of what’s in the bags of fertilizer... I recently got a big back of Jobes Organic granular fertilizer that I was hoping to use but can’t find if it has potassium chloride... if it isn’t organic I was hoping I could just avoid it by looking at organic solubles...

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As for varieties I have at least four of each but I went heavier on Black Sea Samsun, Shirley, Virginia Bright Leaf, Catterton, Little Dutch, and Green Brior...
Florida Sumatra
Wisconsin 901
Izmir Ozbas
Habano 2000
Havana 142
Golden Burley
PENNSYLVANIA Red
And I got some Jasmine Tobacco flowers going too. Speaking of which, does anyone on this forum NOT top their tobacco and still harvest leaf? I know you keep it for seed and remove it to increase yield... but does letting it flower affect the taste/smokability?

Bonus pics on how I’ve been getting my beds ready. I have a 5x10 mobile pen for my quails... there are about 4 in there. I usually move them every day or so but I’ve camped them in any spot I want to make a bed and they eat and shit all over the grass and I bed them down with straw as the mess up the place so they stay clean in lieu of having clean fresh grass to walk on. After a few weeks I move them to the next spot, till the 5x10 area, cover it with a layer of cardboard, wet down the cardboard with my homemade compost/fish tea, clean out my four rabbit pens and put their old bedding (usually straw and pine) on top of the card board, water it down again, then put a few inches of compost on top of the rabbit bedding and Then sprinkle with clover seed as a living mulch. We will see how it goes... I’m on the last 5x10 space around the perimeter of the fenced in garden (you can see my 10x10 boxes of tomatoes in the back... put them out too fucking early too but they are doing better) I’ve done 7- 5x10 beds around the garden total
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Good start. Many of your questions are answered within the New Growers' FAQ (link in the menu bar).

To save seed of a specific variety of tobacco, you will need to bag that plant's blossom head. Otherwise, topping will increase leaf size and leaf alkaloids. Removing all suckers is also important to the quality of your leaf. If you get the plants into the ground by early June, you should have plenty of growing time.

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Nice write up. Your plants are looking healthy and I love the quail and rabbit fertilizer. What breed quail are you raising?
You are on the right track in avoiding the chloride in your fertilizer but you should also avoid Urea as it can kill the seedlings. I use a urea free orchid fertilizer 20-10-20. https://www.amazon.com/Grow-More-52...+free+orchid+fertilizer&qid=1588519559&sr=8-3 Your plants are going to start spreading roots in the new space created so don’t be surprised if you don’t see a lot of growth above ground for awhile. It’s normal. Keep us posted and best of luck.
 

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The quails are mostly jumbo coturnix. Is urea an issue beyond seedling stage? I ask because I’m about to buy some soluble fertilizer too for my garden and would like to be able to cross utilize it with the tobaccos as well. I was looking at this one but it does have urea and says “not more than 1% chlorine” and am not sure if that’s a reflag either— it doesn’t mention any of the sources of chlorine described in the FAQ... what do you guys think about using it on tobacco?

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I guess I will not be letting the flowers bloom. I was hoping to add that to my anticipation but am not looking to save seeds and I guess that’s why
 

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That fertilizer should be excellent out in the planting beds. Orientals are usually not topped. So you can enjoy your Izmir Ozbas blossoms. Put one in a pot near where you sit outside (deck, porch, patio), and see if it attracts hummingbirds.

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That fertilizer should be excellent out in the planting beds. Orientals are usually not topped. So you can enjoy your Izmir Ozbas blossoms. Put one in a pot near where you sit outside (deck, porch, patio), and see if it attracts hummingbirds.

Bob
I got a few hummingbirds and loads of butterflies from this purple verbena flower I had last year. I got a whole row of them coming up this year with some Shasta daisies and zinnias. I’ll probably prick out a few more of the Izmir ozbas now. I’ll probably cap the row with the tobacco then and hope for a swarm. Maybe I’ll grab some of that fertilizer for beds and foliar since it soluble. Thanks.
 
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