G'day from Down Under

[LivinInPiperHell]

G'day everyone. I live in beautiful Australia that has been taken over by the self-appointed arbiters of social conscience.
Thanks to the ***** Left, a tin of pipe tobacco is around $85 for 50 grams & within a year will be $100 for 50g. It's morally reprehensible & I'm outraged.

A U.S. Surgeon Generals report found that pipe smokers who inhale, have the same life expectancy as a non-smoker. [This statement is not correct--deluxestogie] There was a time when pipe tobacco was taxed at a much lower rate than cigarettes for that very reason. But the haters who wish to dictate & force their prejudices onto the rest of us, don't care for the facts, especially not when it contradicts their ideology. Grrrrrr.

So the intelligent thing to do is to grow my own. Looking forward to learning from members knowledge & experience. I don't want to grow & prepare acceptable tobacco, but rather, really good tobacco. Aim high, lol.

 

[Alpine]

Welcome to FTT

pier

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Welcome to the forum!

 

[JennyLeez]

Yep it is the same further downunder NZ$92 for 50gm and due to increase in another month, so I hear

Welcome from me

 

[LivinInPiperHell]

Yep it is the same further downunder NZ$92 for 50gm and due to increase in another month, so I hear

Welcome from me

Thanks Jenny.

The price of tobacco is outrageous.
You're ordering from O/S yeah? I've had two parcels intercepted but I see it as part of the process & it still works out cheaper than buying here. Plus I've got some tasty baccy.

 

[Charly]

Welcome on FTT.
Yes, smart people want us to stop enjoying life...

 

[skychaser]

I ship seed to AU and NZ with guaranteed delivery or your money back.
http://northwoodseeds.com

 

[2Baccy]

I heard you may live 3 years longer then the general population if you don’t Inhale, but smoke a pipe.
I think excess sugar and the modern North American diet kill more than tobacco. Do I think sugar should be taxed. Certainly not.
I’m tired of tax being the answer for all “problems”. *****

 

[MarcL]

Welcome to Fair Trade Tobacco.

 

[JennyLeez]

The price of tobacco is outrageous.
You're ordering from O/S yeah? I've had two parcels intercepted but I see it as part of the process & it still works out cheaper than buying here. Plus I've got some tasty baccy.

Yes correct I was steered by members in here to buy whole leaf until my first grow aged. That means I can not touch it until late Autumn next year. Ordering from WLT is filling the gap but I have no doubt my own grow will not be a patch on WLT so I shall happily be ordering it for many years to come.
Correct customs steps in and by the time letters are sent and heat treatment complete we are looking at around a 6 week wait. So one needs to be street wise and order well a head to stay a head

Cheaper....... hahaha absolutely

 

[LivinInPiperHell]

Yes correct I was steered by members in here to buy whole leaf until my first grow aged. That means I can not touch it until late Autumn next year. Ordering from WLT is filling the gap but I have no doubt my own grow will not be a patch on WLT so I shall happily be ordering it for many years to come.
Correct customs steps in and by the time letters are sent and heat treatment complete we are looking at around a 6 week wait. So one needs to be street wise and order well a head to stay a head

Cheaper....... hahaha absolutely

So you declare it to Customs? Don't they charge duty?
Aus. Customs sent me a letter demanding $530 duty for a 16oz bulk bag.
Is whole leaf treated differently to commercial mixtures by NZ Customs?

 

[LivinInPiperHell]

I ship seed to AU and NZ with guaranteed delivery or your money back.
http://northwoodseeds.com

Thanks I'll keep you in mind.
I'm right for now. My order from China will keep me going for this season.

 

[Mille]

So you declare it to Customs? Don't they charge duty?
Aus. Customs sent me a letter demanding $530 duty for a 16oz bulk bag.
Is whole leaf treated differently to commercial mixtures by NZ Customs?

New Zealand customs are among the worst, they rarely let things slip by without incurring duty fees. $63 per 50g. Only saves you a few dollars in comparison to purchasing at shops, literally $5 or so after you've paid shipping etcetera.

 

[JennyLeez]

So you declare it to Customs? Don't they charge duty?
Aus. Customs sent me a letter demanding $530 duty for a 16oz bulk bag.
Is whole leaf treated differently to commercial mixtures by NZ Customs?

I am not paying duty so far. I am paying for the heat treatment only

 

[LivinInPiperHell]

New Zealand customs are among the worst, they rarely let things slip by without incurring duty fees. $63 per 50g. Only saves you a few dollars in comparison to purchasing at shops, literally $5 or so after you've paid shipping etcetera.

That sucks.

I've been lucky to have got several pounds through.
Now I just make very small orders where yes, postage usually costs more than the tobacco.

 

[LivinInPiperHell]

I am not paying duty so far. I am paying for the heat treatment only

What do you declare it as?

 

[JennyLeez]

Whole leaf tobacco as we are allowed to bring this in ok for personal use

 

[LivinInPiperHell]

Whole leaf tobacco as we are allowed to bring this in ok for personal use

I'll have to see what the rules are here in Aus.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

For clarification, whole leaf tobacco is not taxed the same as bulk shredded tobacco. I'm not sure what the rate is in NZ, but in Canada whole leaf taxes are so negligible that they don't bother charging 90% of the time.

 

[LivinInPiperHell]

A DuckDuckGo search on the Aussie laws brought me back here.
Apparently I either need a licence or an exemption from the Tax Commissioner. Don't like my chances.