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Greetings friends. I've been trying to grow my own tobacco for a couple of years so as not to buy from corporations, because here in Mexico prices are rising more and more (I guess not as much as in the United States, but considering that we earn in pesos it is considerable). Apart from tobacco, I am trying to become self-sufficient with my vegetable garden, for the same reasons as well as having more control over what I eat and smoke, and thus be able to share it with my loved ones. I must say that with tobacco the issue of curing was a surprise, I do not know if it is the lack of humidity in the area where I live but from each harvest most of them try to cure, however most of the leaves dry green. growers have any advice on curing?

In Mexico it is difficult to find seeds, or even find whole leaf. Tobacco is grown in Veracruz and Tabasco, but the plants they use are for cigars and are very strong for a cigarette smoker like me. In Nayarit, varieties for cigarettes, burley and virginia are produced, however in a monopoly of the British American Tobacco Corporation, I have thought about going to have if I can contact a farmer who can sell me some leaves, but the truth is that it is a state a bit dangerous to travel currently, and not only because of the covid. As I said, it is very difficult to find tobacco seeds in Mexico. Although the rustic nicotiana grows everywhere.

I bought some seeds of a tobacco that said they were called "shirey" and that was supposed to be a dark virginia, do any of you know that plant? I have not found much information on the internet. I have 3 harvests with the same plants. Since it did not seed as much last year and was just harvested and has to take its time and aged the few surviving leaves that did not dry green. I decided to buy some whole leaf from a US site with not such a reputation (all for not reading the reviews in time!). I paid a UPS order that did not arrive and was returned to the company, without explanations, they did not tell me if it was due to a customs matter or a typing error, nothing, and apparently they are not very convinced to give me a refund, I understood that the shipping cost would not be refunded to me, but not even the cost of the product, contrary to what the website said. I really wanted to try those tobacco leaves and it really is a bit sad because I spent around 130 dollars for 7 pounds, which in Mexico is a considerable amount of money. and it really doesn't feel fair.

I understand that WLT is a producer friendly company, and that it has a better reputation than the company that gave me this bad experience. Does anyone know if they ship to Mexico? Has anyone received leaf tobacco in Mexico? I would also appreciate any advice on DIY tobacco growing and curing. (especially curing!)

I read well in English but I don't feel very comfortable writing it so this is written with the help of google translator. In case there is a funny mistake or something like that
 
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Welcome to the forum.

If your leaves are drying green, you have several options.
1. Don't pick them until they are yellow.
2. Pile them in a cardboard box, sort them daily and only hang the yellow ones.
or
3. Build a room, shed, or large box that will not let moisture escape.

I haven't grown Shirey, but it has a good reputation. If it's anything like Goose Creek, you can air cure it, sun cure it, or flue cure it.

I am unsure, but you should be able to order from WLT. I live In Canada, and have no problems.

Try ordering seeds from Northwoodseeds.com. They are absolutely trustworthy and have the best selection on the continent.
 

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Welcome to FTT. What @ChinaVoodoo said: picking your leaves when they are ripe (yellow or mostly yellow when still in the plant) is your best insurance against green curing. Also, if your growing season is long enough (mine is not) try to sow seeds and transplant so that when the humid season approaches you are ready for harvest. Cardboard box curing involves more work than simply hang the leaves in a shed, but works very well.
For seeds, you can’t go wrong with Northwoodseeds, highly recommended.

pier
 

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Welcome, enjoy your journey. This site and it's members will surely be of assistance to the questions you've asked. Follow the links posted above and knowledge is there.
 

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Welcome to FTT.
Follow the advices about the maturing and the piling in cardboard and you should have less green dried leaves.
 

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Greetings friends that sounds like good advice about cardboard boxes. What I have done before is to put the leaves in an open plastic bag, and every 5 or six leaves I put a layer of absorbent kitchen paper to prevent the humidity from the leaves from rotting them until they start to change the color, it has worked more or less, but the box method sounds better to me. Once I tried to buy seeds from a website in the United States , however, having already paid for them, they told me that they required a photosanitary permit to send them to Mexico, which cost about 150 dollars, and I could not pay that permit for 3 packages of seeds of two dollars each. I found this weird as I have bought heirloom vegetable seeds several times with the folks at bakercreek seeds. By the way I have several seeds from Nicotiana Rustica, from the Sierra Mazateca in Oaxaca and from the Balsas region of the state of Guerrero. These plants are not traditionally smoked but are used on the skin for ritual purposes, in case someone is interested perhaps we could exchange seeds, for some variety for cigarettes (some type of Virginia, Burley or Oriental) would be to trust luck, but the worst that can happen is that they stay in customs.
 
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by the way I have read a lot about the alligator skin to know if the leaves are ripe, but I have not seen images, could someone describe to me what it refers to? I harvest when the leaf begins to release yellow tones, but the tobacco plant that I grow does not turn completely yellow.
 

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I am not so sure my tobacco seeds was real shirey, thats what the seller say to me, but I buy it in mercadolibre thats the mexican version of ebay, and come just in a little ziploc bag
 

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Greetings friends. I've been trying to grow my own tobacco for a couple of years so as not to buy from corporations, because here in Mexico prices are rising more and more (I guess not as much as in the United States, but considering that we earn in pesos it is considerable). Apart from tobacco, I am trying to become self-sufficient with my vegetable garden, for the same reasons as well as having more control over what I eat and smoke, and thus be able to share it with my loved ones. I must say that with tobacco the issue of curing was a surprise, I do not know if it is the lack of humidity in the area where I live but from each harvest most of them try to cure, however most of the leaves dry green. growers have any advice on curing?

In Mexico it is difficult to find seeds, or even find whole leaf. Tobacco is grown in Veracruz and Tabasco, but the plants they use are for cigars and are very strong for a cigarette smoker like me. In Nayarit, varieties for cigarettes, burley and virginia are produced, however in a monopoly of the British American Tobacco Corporation, I have thought about going to have if I can contact a farmer who can sell me some leaves, but the truth is that it is a state a bit dangerous to travel currently, and not only because of the covid. As I said, it is very difficult to find tobacco seeds in Mexico. Although the rustic nicotiana grows everywhere.

I bought some seeds of a tobacco that said they were called "shirey" and that was supposed to be a dark virginia, do any of you know that plant? I have not found much information on the internet. I have 3 harvests with the same plants. Since it did not seed as much last year and was just harvested and has to take its time and aged the few surviving leaves that did not dry green. I decided to buy some whole leaf from a US site with not such a reputation (all for not reading the reviews in time!). I paid a UPS order that did not arrive and was returned to the company, without explanations, they did not tell me if it was due to a customs matter or a typing error, nothing, and apparently they are not very convinced to give me a refund, I understood that the shipping cost would not be refunded to me, but not even the cost of the product, contrary to what the website said. I really wanted to try those tobacco leaves and it really is a bit sad because I spent around 130 dollars for 7 pounds, which in Mexico is a considerable amount of money. and it really doesn't feel fair.

I understand that WLT is a producer friendly company, and that it has a better reputation than the company that gave me this bad experience. Does anyone know if they ship to Mexico? Has anyone received leaf tobacco in Mexico? I would also appreciate any advice on DIY tobacco growing and curing. (especially curing!)

I read well in English but I don't feel very comfortable writing it so this is written with the help of google translator. In case there is a funny mistake or something like that
Welcome from me in NZ. If you have look at the section on curing you can get a lot of information about curing and processing your own baccy.
Cheers Oldfella
 
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