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I'm new to the pipe world... about a year now, found and have referbed a few estate pipes and have been trying out a few blends. I have decided to grow my own pipe tobacco since I'm not much of a trusting sole when it comes to buying retail things like tobacco... anyway I have seeds coming in the mail of five types- Small Stalk Black Mammoth, Havana 142, Virginia Gold, Burley 21 and Black Sea Samson mostly because I couldn't decide on what to grow for a smokable pipe blend. I'm inclined to growing Black Mammoth--Burley and Havana (air curing for the most part) for starters but I could use some advice for a first time grower.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Do read the New Growers' FAQ, and scan the topics in our Index of Key Forum Threads. Both are linked in the menu bar.

For pipe blends without added flavors, read the lengthy thread:


For cased (flavored) tobacco blends:


It's hard to go wrong with growing
  • a Virginia
  • a burley
  • an Oriental
  • a dark air-cured
for pipe blending. Making some of each into Cavendish will give you 8 blending ingredients to play with.

While you await Mother Nature, you might want to purchase one of the pipe "blending" kits from WholeLeafTobacco (the banner ad).

Bob
 

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Welcome to the forum. Do read the New Growers' FAQ, and scan the topics in our Index of Key Forum Threads. Both are linked in the menu bar.

For pipe blends without added flavors, read the lengthy thread:


For cased (flavored) tobacco blends:


It's hard to go wrong with growing
  • a Virginia
  • a burley
  • an Oriental
  • a dark air-cured
for pipe blending. Making some of each into Cavendish will give you 8 blending ingredients to play with.

While you await Mother Nature, you might want to purchase one of the pipe "blending" kits from WholeLeafTobacco (the banner ad).

Bob
Thanks Bob, I started reading up on your pipe blend thread and look forward to trying some of those blends out.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Do read the New Growers' FAQ, and scan the topics in our Index of Key Forum Threads. Both are linked in the menu bar.

For pipe blends without added flavors, read the lengthy thread:


For cased (flavored) tobacco blends:


It's hard to go wrong with growing
  • a Virginia
  • a burley
  • an Oriental
  • a dark air-cured
for pipe blending. Making some of each into Cavendish will give you 8 blending ingredients to play with.

While you await Mother Nature, you might want to purchase one of the pipe "blending" kits from WholeLeafTobacco (the banner ad).

Bob
I have been reading so much that is kinda spinning!... so the 4 types you stated-- all are air cured but the dark air cured is also fermented?
 

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The "Virginia" you are familiar with from pipe blends (lovely, lemon color, etc.) is flue-cured. You get a different product when you air-cure it. Nearly all Orientals are sun-cured.

"Fermented" simply means "aged". (We are not talking about microbial action, but primarily enzymatic action.) This is accomplished with either time alone or, over a shorter time, with a kiln. If you don't plan to flue-cure your flue-cure variety (most Virginia types), then I would suggest sun-curing it, along with the Oriental. In the absence of a kiln (which you would have to build during one heroic weekend), each of these will require aging. Burley (always air-cured) is "smokable" by late November, but much better by the following spring. The sun-cured leaf should be ready within weeks to months after sun-curing. Most dark air-cured varieties need a year or three of unassisted aging to play nice (much shorter with a kiln). Little Yellow is about the gentlest dark air-cured variety.

You will get something smokable and satisfying from your first year of growing. But understand that the first year is mostly a learning time.

Bob
 

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The "Virginia" you are familiar with from pipe blends (lovely, lemon color, etc.) is flue-cured. You get a different product when you air-cure it. Nearly all Orientals are sun-cured.

"Fermented" simply means "aged". (We are not talking about microbial action, but primarily enzymatic action.) This is accomplished with either time alone or, over a shorter time, with a kiln. If you don't plan to flue-cure your flue-cure variety (most Virginia types), then I would suggest sun-curing it, along with the Oriental. In the absence of a kiln (which you would have to build during one heroic weekend), each of these will require aging. Burley (always air-cured) is "smokable" by late November, but much better by the following spring. The sun-cured leaf should be ready within weeks to months after sun-curing. Most dark air-cured varieties need a year or three of unassisted aging to play nice (much shorter with a kiln). Little Yellow is about the gentlest dark air-cured variety.

You will get something smokable and satisfying from your first year of growing. But understand that the first year is mostly a learning time.

Bob
Thank you kind sir.......heroic weekend hahahahaha
 

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I'm new to the pipe world... about a year now, found and have referbed a few estate pipes and have been trying out a few blends. I have decided to grow my own pipe tobacco since I'm not much of a trusting sole when it comes to buying retail things like tobacco... anyway I have seeds coming in the mail of five types- Small Stalk Black Mammoth, Havana 142, Virginia Gold, Burley 21 and Black Sea Samson mostly because I couldn't decide on what to grow for a smokable pipe blend. I'm inclined to growing Black Mammoth--Burley and Havana (air curing for the most part) for starters but I could use some advice for a first time grower.
I am in southwest OK. I will be trying to grow several varieties of tobacco this spring for the first time. I hope the brutal heat and lack of rain we experienced last summer doesn't occur this year. Good luck!
 

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I'm new to the pipe world... about a year now, found and have referbed a few estate pipes and have been trying out a few blends. I have decided to grow my own pipe tobacco since I'm not much of a trusting sole when it comes to buying retail things like tobacco... anyway I have seeds coming in the mail of five types- Small Stalk Black Mammoth, Havana 142, Virginia Gold, Burley 21 and Black Sea Samson mostly because I couldn't decide on what to grow for a smokable pipe blend. I'm inclined to growing Black Mammoth--Burley and Havana (air curing for the most part) for starters but I could use some advice for a first time grower.
Welcome to the forum!
 
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