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Hi all, I'm a complete newbie to the site and tobacco growing.

I watched a series of YouTube videos from a guy growing tobacco in the Midlands, which is where I live. As you know the weather isn't great in the UK, and slightly poorer in the Midlands. I live near Birmingham for reference.

So I was surprised to discover that you can actually grow what seemed to be an exotic plant here in a very temperate climate!

Anyway, like I said I watched a few videos from this guy, and have since googled a few things, but one thing no-one has really done is give an in-depth detailed guide on growing tobacco. I have lots of questions, some will crop up in my mind in due course probably I would really appreciate some help.

So a popular brand of tobacco here is called Amber Leaf, and it is what I smoked. So I ordered some amber leaf seeds from eBay and my plants are 4 months old now, I seeded the end of March. I've put most of them into a 4m x 2m x 2m polytunnel, in 10l pots. I think I've done this wrong. Lots of people say they're growing different varieties, and that store bought tobacco is a blend, whereas I'm growing a variety that there's no information online about?

Some seem to be growing quicker than others, and as the plants have grown I have been harvesting the yellowing leaves, or any that have snapped stems from me knocking them. I'm hanging them in my living room and some are browning but some are remaining yellow and not drying too well?

I did try and cheat with some small leaves early on. I thinly sliced them and put them in the oven on a low heat for about an hour. They were very brittle afterwards, and when I rolled them into a cigarette it just tasted of leaf and that's it. There didn't appear to be much nicotine in them.

When you come to harvest, what do you do with the leaves that have been nibbled at by pests?

Back to drying - I keep reading leaves take 2 months to dry and cure, but I have some that have took half that time and look ready to shred? I don't have a garage and loft access is difficult, and I'm not sure my lounge is the best place to dry them?

Sorry for all the questions like I said I've never done this before and I've never really done any gardening before either!
 

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A detailed in depth guide to growing tobacco:

 

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Welcome to the forum. Be sure to read the New Growers' FAQ, and look through the topics in our Index of Key Forum Threads. Both are linked in the menu bar.

I am not aware of "Amber" as being a specific tobacco variety, as opposed to merely a retail brand of manufactured tobacco.

Color-curing (going from green to yellow and on to brown) may require a few weeks or a few months. After that, the leaf needs to age, or be kilned. An exception would be flue-cured Virginia tobacco varieties, which can be taken from green to smokable in a week or less--IF you build yourself a flue-curing chamber.

Cigarette tobacco products are primarily Virginia flue-cured leaf, and depending on the brand, blended with burley, Orientals, fire-cured leaf, or any combination of them.

Bob
 

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Welcome to the forum. Be sure to read the New Growers' FAQ, and look through the topics in our Index of Key Forum Threads. Both are linked in the menu bar.

I am not aware of "Amber" as being a specific tobacco variety, as opposed to merely a retail brand of manufactured tobacco.

Color-curing (going from green to yellow and on to brown) may require a few weeks or a few months. After that, the leaf needs to age, or be kilned. An exception would be flue-cured Virginia tobacco varieties, which can be taken from green to smokable in a week or less--IF you build yourself a flue-curing chamber.

Cigarette tobacco products are primarily Virginia flue-cured leaf, and depending on the brand, blended with burley, Orientals, fire-cured leaf, or any combination of them.

Bob
Thank you. Is your book just about growing cigar tobacco?
 

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"A complete guide to growing tobacco at a scale suitable for home-growers. It's first chapter is a Quick Start summary of the basics of tobacco growing. The remainder of the book fleshes out all the details of growing, harvesting, and curing. Various finishing methods are explored, including Cavendish, Latakia, plugs, twists, pressing methods, and perique. Blend instructions and recipes are provided for cigarettes, cigars, pipe tobacco, and smokeless tobacco. There are also a chapters on tobacco varieties and the whole leaf trade. 200 black and white images. Appendixes -Tobacco Glossary -Tobacco-Safe Plastics -Kiln / Flue-Cure Chamber Plans -Tobacco Pests -Fertilizers -Experimental Crossing -Resources "

The book covers most types and uses of tobacco.

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Hi all, I'm a complete newbie to the site and tobacco growing.

I watched a series of YouTube videos from a guy growing tobacco in the Midlands, which is where I live. As you know the weather isn't great in the UK, and slightly poorer in the Midlands. I live near Birmingham for reference.

So I was surprised to discover that you can actually grow what seemed to be an exotic plant here in a very temperate climate!

Anyway, like I said I watched a few videos from this guy, and have since googled a few things, but one thing no-one has really done is give an in-depth detailed guide on growing tobacco. I have lots of questions, some will crop up in my mind in due course probably I would really appreciate some help.

So a popular brand of tobacco here is called Amber Leaf, and it is what I smoked. So I ordered some amber leaf seeds from eBay and my plants are 4 months old now, I seeded the end of March. I've put most of them into a 4m x 2m x 2m polytunnel, in 10l pots. I think I've done this wrong. Lots of people say they're growing different varieties, and that store bought tobacco is a blend, whereas I'm growing a variety that there's no information online about?

Some seem to be growing quicker than others, and as the plants have grown I have been harvesting the yellowing leaves, or any that have snapped stems from me knocking them. I'm hanging them in my living room and some are browning but some are remaining yellow and not drying too well?

I did try and cheat with some small leaves early on. I thinly sliced them and put them in the oven on a low heat for about an hour. They were very brittle afterwards, and when I rolled them into a cigarette it just tasted of leaf and that's it. There didn't appear to be much nicotine in them.

When you come to harvest, what do you do with the leaves that have been nibbled at by pests?

Back to drying - I keep reading leaves take 2 months to dry and cure, but I have some that have took half that time and look ready to shred? I don't have a garage and loft access is difficult, and I'm not sure my lounge is the best place to dry them?

Sorry for all the questions like I said I've never done this before and I've never really done any gardening before either!
Hi there. I’m in the uk as well. I’m near Norwich. I grow in Polly as well as out side. I sun cure my leaf in the Polly aiming for golden Virginia. Sun drying is as close as you can get to flue curing without building a curing chamber.
 

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Most rolling tobacco is a blend of sun cured oriental leaf flue cured Virginia and air cured burley. Or that what golden Virginia is. I’ve grown Samsun Virginia #1 and velvet sun cured the Samsun and Virginia and air curing the velvet
 

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Those quick to dry leaves are probably right at the bottom known as sand lugs I would guess they tend to yellow on the plant. The nic content gets stronger as you go up the plant !! So don’t panic !!
 

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Hi there. I’m in the uk as well. I’m near Norwich. I grow in Polly as well as out side. I sun cure my leaf in the Polly aiming for golden Virginia. Sun drying is as close as you can get to flue curing without building a curing chamber.
How do you sun cure them mate?

I'm growing 50 plants in the 10l pots with saucers and I put the lot in the polytunnel. Now they've got too big width wise so I've had to put 10 outside in the elements. They don't seem to be growing as big as the others. Think the plants really like the humidity in the poly.

I've been watering them daily, in the saucers where I can, and giving them Grosure tomato feed in the saucer once a weekish, as I've read that they're closely related to tomato plants. Some leaves do get splashes of it, evident by the white residue the feed leaves behind. Are they safe to smoke?


Thank you to everyone for the help and replies. It's kinda reinforcing that I should be growing different varieties for a blend. Was hoping that I could just harvest and cure these amber leaf plants and start rolling them up!

It's a steep learning curve and I'm just winging it. I just don't want to mess up too bad seeing as I've spent about £300 already on two polys and pots etc.IMG_20210723_192349.jpg
 

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How do you sun cure them mate?

I'm growing 50 plants in the 10l pots with saucers and I put the lot in the polytunnel. Now they've got too big width wise so I've had to put 10 outside in the elements. They don't seem to be growing as big as the others. Think the plants really like the humidity in the poly.

I've been watering them daily, in the saucers where I can, and giving them Grosure tomato feed in the saucer once a weekish, as I've read that they're closely related to tomato plants. Some leaves do get splashes of it, evident by the white residue the feed leaves behind. Are they safe to smoke?


Thank you to everyone for the help and replies. It's kinda reinforcing that I should be growing different varieties for a blend. Was hoping that I could just harvest and cure these amber leaf plants and start rolling them up!

It's a steep learning curve and I'm just winging it. I just don't want to mess up too bad seeing as I've spent about £300 already on two polys and pots etc.View attachment 37839
Nice looking plants. (y)
 

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It's kinda reinforcing that I should be growing different varieties for a blend. Was hoping that I could just harvest and cure these amber leaf plants and start rolling them up!
Virginia is a pleasant smoke as soon as its sun cured. Way back it was all I grew and it's still my main crop, if all else fails, it won't. So don't worry you'll get a good start to home grown baccy and next season you'll wonder what all the fuss was about. Nice looking plants B.T.W.
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How do you sun cure them mate?

I'm growing 50 plants in the 10l pots with saucers and I put the lot in the polytunnel. Now they've got too big width wise so I've had to put 10 outside in the elements. They don't seem to be growing as big as the others. Think the plants really like the humidity in the poly.

I've been watering them daily, in the saucers where I can, and giving them Grosure tomato feed in the saucer once a weekish, as I've read that they're closely related to tomato plants. Some leaves do get splashes of it, evident by the white residue the feed leaves behind. Are they safe to smoke?


Thank you to everyone for the help and replies. It's kinda reinforcing that I should be growing different varieties for a blend. Was hoping that I could just harvest and cure these amber leaf plants and start rolling them up!

It's a steep learning curve and I'm just winging it. I just don't want to mess up too bad seeing as I've spent about £300 already on two polys and pots etc.View attachment 37839
Hi mate. I know the feeling loads to learn. They grow better in Polly because of ground temperature and better nutrition up take. They need 60 to 90 days for leaf to mature. I would stop feeding as with our wether I like to crop early for the temperature and humidity for colour curing as the bottom leave yellow I break them of (they will crack not bend when ripe) I then sow them onto string like bailing string and hang them in the upper part of the Polly tunnel you want an average humidity of about 70 and 20-30 celcius. Rh will go up at night and temp will go down. If it’s sunny during the day I water tO keep the rh above 60. Don’t use tap water to water the leaf doesn’t like chlorine it stops it burning as well apparently!
 

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