import some leaf into New Zealand

[Deano]

I ship to New Zealand frequently and never heard of that kind of tax being charged. We attach all proper paperwork to the order in an attempt to educate customs workers as to what the package contains. I believe (by now) the customs workers know "unmanufactured tobacco" is NOT a tobacco product and will not be taxed at the rate of tobacco products.

If you order and they try to charge you 80 cents a gram, just refuse the package and I'll refund your money.

How can I get in contact to order some leaf from you? I live in New Zealand too

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

How can I get in contact to order some leaf from you? I live in New Zealand too

There should be a banner for Whole Leaf Tobacco at the top of the forum, which you can click on that will take you to Fmgrowit's whole leaf tobacco website.

 

[Deano]

There should be a banner for Whole Leaf Tobacco at the top of the forum, which you can click on that will take you to Fmgrowit's whole leaf tobacco website.

Thanks mate

 

[NOvice]

Hi you Kiwis out there, anyone tried the Maryland 609 through the heat treatment process? I like the sound of it but have never tried it. thanks for any replies--bruce

 

[deluxestogie]

I speak from near-total ignorance of NZ heat "treatment", but Maryland is always just air-cured, and is usually improved by some additional curing or fermentation or heat. I would say, "Go for it."

Bob

 

[NOvice]

Thanks again Bob, I think I will try some with my next order--bruce.

 

[FmGrowit]

The Maryland tobaccos are becoming more popular in New Zealand and I believe it is because the heat treatment improves the tobacco dramatically. Like Burley, toasting an air cured tobacco will drive off the nitrogen in the tobacco resulting in smooth smoke with a rich tobacco flavor.

 

[Orson Carte]

I agree that the Heat Treatment process doesn't do any 'harm' to any tobacco, except darken its colour. It does however, appear to 'gum' the leaves together inside a one pound package and it often requires some patience and the application of water spray, steam, etc to recondition it to a point where the leaves may be easily separated. Having said that I have found that same 'gummed together' condition in packages that have completely escaped treatment so I'm far from certain that the process is entirely to blame.
On the matter of Maryland I have found that it generally comes through in much more easily managed condition than with the flue-cured choices. However, I've also found that it isn't always at its best straight out of the packet - it often needs a few weeks 'aging' in the open air to eliminate the sometimes noticeable ammonia scent.
I generally shred mine straight out of the packet and leave it sitting (airing), shredded, for as long as I can before blending it with various Virginias and Prilep.

 

[NOvice]

Thanks everyone, I like the sound of airing the Maryland well before use and that for a change heat txment will actually improve the tobacco!

 

[tullius]

I agree that the Heat Treatment process doesn't do any 'harm' to any tobacco, except darken its colour. It does however, appear to 'gum' the leaves together inside a one pound package and it often requires some patience and the application of water spray, steam, etc to recondition it to a point where the leaves may be easily separated. Having said that I have found that same 'gummed together' condition in packages that have completely escaped treatment so I'm far from certain that the process is entirely to blame.
On the matter of Maryland I have found that it generally comes through in much more easily managed condition than with the flue-cured choices. However, I've also found that it isn't always at its best straight out of the packet - it often needs a few weeks 'aging' in the open air to eliminate the sometimes noticeable ammonia scent.
I generally shred mine straight out of the packet and leave it sitting (airing), shredded, for as long as I can before blending it with various Virginias and Prilep.

Thanks for posting this. I recently broke open a pack of the 609, leaf smelled great, shredded it up and lest rest a day, smelled uh- very different. Thought my sniffer was busted. Will let it air & rest a week or two & smell again.

 

[deluxestogie]

Maryland 609 makes an excellent Cavendish. For pipe blending, I always kiln MD leaf, then rest it. It's just got a lot going on. It's full aroma and full body go with a leaf that absorbs other flavors and aromas more than most varieties.

I suppose you could just do your own Kiwi heat treatment in Ohio.

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I see a day when there will be a New Zealand Blend of tobacco that's been treated by the government heat treat parameters.

 

[stic]

I've tried the Maryland 609; didn't care for it at all, found it quite obnoxious...

Virginia Redleaf, on the other hand...probably the best tobacco i've ever smoked, and, i've smoked a lot...

I can't speak to the heat treatment, as i've never received any shipment without it, so don't know if a non treated package would be better or worse.

I slice the end off of the package, hang it over the kettle and steam it a few times to bring the leaf back into grindable case...

Those buggers in Auckland are heating my most recent order as I type...

 

[tullius]

I've tried the Maryland 609; didn't care for it at all, found it quite obnoxious...

Virginia Redleaf, on the other hand...probably the best tobacco i've ever smoked, and, i've smoked a lot...

I can't speak to the heat treatment, as i've never received any shipment without it, so don't know if a non treated package would be better or worse.

I slice the end off of the package, hang it over the kettle and steam it a few times to bring the leaf back into grindable case...

Those buggers in Auckland are heating my most recent order as I type...

As freedom loving bastads we are here in the US, we send good tidings and sympathy to you that love freedom too in NZ, on all fronts. You're in tough times there by all reports.

 

[Orson Carte]

As freedom loving bastads we are here in the US, we send good tidings and sympathy to you that love freedom too in NZ, on all fronts. You're in tough times there by all reports.

Tough times here? Don't believe everything the Boss tells you...

 

[FmGrowit]

Tough times here? Don't believe everything the Boss tells you...

I believe Tullius is speak in regard to your liberty to choose to do what you want to do. NZ and US are two different worlds...not that that is good or bad, but they are different. I'm sure there are advantages and disadvantages with both cultures when compared to each other.

 

[stic]

Sure are; while our government taxes us a little heavier than the US, it also provides mostly free or very cheap health care (subsidised medications) and education...

We also have a government funded accident cover for workplace injuries, so unlike in the US, we don't need to take a second mortgage if we need a doctor's visit for an injury, or if we get sick...

 

[burge]

Thanks everyone, I like the sound of airing the Maryland well before use and that for a change heat txment will actually improve the tobacco!

The old lemon posted a while a back went fishing had my tobacco tub in a hot car it sweated the tobacco making it better.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

The old lemon posted a while a back went fishing had my tobacco tub in a hot car it sweated the tobacco making it better.

He's referring to the New Zealand system of heat treatment to prevent pests from entering the country, not aging/fermentation/leaving in your car.

 

[burge]

China I know what he was talking about so giving a illustration on how heat improves tobacco in reference to post above on how it improved the flavour of the I think the Maryland mentioned. I included how heat improved the flavour of the old lemon. So the Heat treatment may be good for the tobacco.