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Are they supposed to wilt? Can you help me understand what’s happening here please?
It's normal for tobacco to wilt down during the day and stand back up in the evening. If they don't recover in a little while they need water. They can withstand dry conditions very well but can drown quickly in standing water (not a problem with my drain hole at 1") I haven't watered the plants since I moved them to pools because we got some rain previously. (we get decent rain in the spring where I live but summer can be very hot and very dry, I'm getting ready for summer) I'm just monitoring them to see how long they can go before I need to water again. I don't want to water too much, but I don't want to have to water daily like I did last summer which is why I decided to try them in the kiddie pools with an inch of water as a reservoir. I think crowding the grow bags together will also slow evaporation. If I can water every other day during the heat of the summer when the temps can stay in the upper 90F range (occasional days over 100F) I will have a day off every other day and can plan other things, rather than be tied to the plants like a ball and chain. I was sick one day last summer and missed watering one single day and the stalks dropped to the ground like they were polyester rope and the bags fell over on the side. (orientals in one gallon grow bags) I couldn't stand them back up until I had watered the roots while laying on their side and they got enough moisture to the stalk to be able to stand back up. I missed one day and thought I had lost them. Wilting is a sign that I haven't overwatered, but I have to figure out when the plants have too little water. My best year was during a drought. I had them in a garden in the ground and didn't water at all. The plants were short, but had big, tightly spaced leaves of a normal count and the flavor and nicotine were perfect and they cured very easily. (I let them mostly yellow on the plant which helped the curing but that also makes the flavor stronger) This is my secong year in grow bags and I am learning as I go. Trying to find the right balance without doing too much or too little. Crowding plants this closely is new to me so I'm doing some experimenting to see what others can get away with in grow bags in a small space, maybe even on a balcony in a city apartment or tiny yard.

Same plants this morning. They recovered in about 15 minutes in the shade yesterday so they still had some moisture in the soil.

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Also, allowing them to dry and wilt down forces the plant to put down bigger stronger roots in search for moisture to survive.
 
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I hear that if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough. This feels very much like cheating but better. I fertilized my plants today using the $20 transfer pump. So easy even a Knucklehead can do it.

Last year, I didn't have drip pans and most of the water and fertilizer passed right through the grow bags into the ground so there was a lot of wasted water and fertilizer. No waste here. As soon as I saw water start out of the drain hole I just pressed the off button. Water hose to bucket, transfer pump from bucket to pool. The heaviest thing I had to lift or drag was the empty garden hose. This is old fogey gardening right here. I used about 5 gal. per pool for 10-11 plants per pool so around 1/2 gal. water/miracle grow per grow bag. The pools held about 2.5 gallons of water to fill the pools to one inch drain hole due to displacement of the grow bags. By the time I filled the third pool, the first pool was empty again so I filled all three pools twice with no wait time in between. If I get alot of rain, pumping out excess water will be a breeze with the transfer pump. Mere minutes. I'm very pleased so far.

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The little bit of water you see on the concrete is what ran out of the garden hose after I shut off the valve then pulled the hose out of the bucket. Last year I ran more into the ground each time than stayed in the grow bags by a huge margin.
 

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Thirsty.

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Quenched.

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Getting some nice sized leaves. They are already getting thick and of a rugose appearance which I am attributing to not overly pampering them and giving them some stresses like allowing them to wilt before giving them water. Tobacco has been cultivated and crossed for large field commercial operations and not all of those have the means to irrigate. Obviously I'm not exactly following standard operating procedure but I do think overwatering and overpampering the plants too much can produce thin, light, weak tobacco. I like strong cigarettes so I will also be allowing them to become ripe (mostly yellow) before priming.

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Lovely leaf.

Bob

EDIT: Repeated water deprivation must be like Kegel exercises for the leaf stomata.
I hope they like it. Plant spacing is approx. 12" but so far so good. No idea how tall they will get. Reams 158 can reach 5' but mine are in 3 gal. bags and crowded so we will have to see. Discounting the tallest and shortest they are currently between 17" and 21" from soil level to growth tip since planting March 26-29 (first batch then had to get more soil). Plenty of season left.
 

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We had wind and rain by the bucketfuls yesterday evening. The little plants flopped over and the big plants did fine. I pumped the water out of the pools yesterday so I don't think they drowned but they sure are limp this morning. I will keep trying to stand them up as the sun comes up. It rained hard.

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More rain yesterday. Pumped the water out of the pools again (1" depth to drain holes). No problem with the transfer pump.

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Amazing growth in the past week. Tallest plant today 40". Shortest from the first planting 32". There are two plants in the middle pool from the second planting (front and center). The plants recovered great after the storm beat them up. Even the crooks in the stalks straightened back up.

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The shorter plants in the first pool, second planting (same seeding, later planting) running between 17" and 21".

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So far, still loving the pools.

edit: I rotated all the pools 90 degrees a week ago for more sun exposure. Will rotate each time soil is dry and light weight.
 
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The first photo is interesting. The plants seem to be so closely spaced that, if in the ground together, they might dwarf one another. Yet with separate grow bags, they seem to be flourishing, despite the close spacing. My guess is that the grow bags are simply eliminating root competition and mutual inhibition. [Or perhaps they are not as closely spaced as it appears.]

Bob
 
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