Medio Tiempo leaf?

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I would wonder which varieties do they harvest these rare leaves? I've read a lot of articles on cigars but have not come across one like this. I'd imagine the very top leaves would be very strong and probably have a distinct flavor. I'm interested to see some input on this from the guys here that have a lot of experience rolling and bunching cigars.
 

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I am not an expert, but I think these "medio tiempo" leaves are just some suckers left to maturity :) (smaller leaves above the ligero)
In the mouth of commercial people it becomes "rare but wonderfull"... not on all plants... blabla...

Last year I harvested my semois without topping the plants, the leaves from the very top has much more aroma than the leaves just beneath them, so I might have harvested medio tiempo as well ;)
I should perhaps call my cigars Karlhike :D :D
 

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The tip leaf (they're the highest leaves on the main stalk, beneath the crowsfoot) are relatively tiny, thick, and slow to mature. If you allow them to reach maturity, they kiln to very deep brown, sometimes oscuro leaf that is intensely flavored, very high in nicotine, and poor burning. In terms of bang for the buck, they are extra labor that provides a limited quantity of leaf that can only be used as a condiment. Maybe worthwhile, maybe not. It depends on the variety.

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Are there certain varieties that his occurs on more so than others? The article said something about not all plants have this little nicotine power punch leaf. I wonder how that leaf would go in some pipe tobacco?
 

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I had never heard of "medio tiempo" (other than the simple Spanish translation of "half-time") applied to tobacco until some marketeer came up with it for some cigars less than a decade ago. In Spanish-speaking cigar world, tip leaf is usually just called corona (crown).

"They also get the full benefit of sunlight..."
"On some plants, but far from all, two additional tobacco leaves grow at the very top, above the ligero. Those leaves are called medio tiempo."
"Medio tiempo is very rare. Some farmers estimate that fewer than one in ten tobacco plants grows medio tiempo leaves."

Any of you who have actually grown real tobacco know that these three sentences don't smell quite right. While it is true that tip leaf is smaller on some plants than others, every plant ever grown on earth has leaves at the top. Tobacco leaf nodes (where the leaves emerge from the stalk) are rotationally staggered as their growth meristems' locations appear on the growing stalk. Silly names for specific pairs of leaves is not meaningful. They don't grow in pairs. The leaf stem positions form a pentagonal symmetry (just like tobacco blossoms).

About getting "the most" sunlight, tip leaf often emerges from the stalk much later than lower leaves. Can't be getting sun if you're not there yet. Also the pentagonal distribution of all the leaves minimizes the shading from higher leaves.

If you top your plants well below the crowsfoot, then you won't see tip leaf. Otherwise, you can become an expert on the subject in a single growing season--a benefit not available to the folks who write articles in popular cigar magazines. "We interviewed a grower who sells Medio Tiempo leaf at an exorbitant price, and he said, while taking a puff on his $30 cigar, that it's truly rare leaf, reserved for only the most bigly premium cigars."

Sorry. I get carried away, when I read so much of the fluff written about cigars and tobacco growing. (for example, the well-published assertion that the Perique variety will only grow in Louisiana. "Others have tried growing it elsewhere and failed." [bullshit])

With regard to using tip leaf in a pipe blend, if it's a suitable variety, then it would make an excellent condiment.

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Totally agree with you Bob !
That's exactly what I was thinking (as noted in my previous post)
Just some pure commercial words... :)
 

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It's the claim to fame of the Cuban Cohiba BHK cigars.

From: https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/cohiba

BHK 52,54, and 56
Cigars: Handmade, incorporating the scarce Medio Tiempo leaf.
Bands: Standard band F.
Packaging: Black lacquered Boîte Nature Box of 10 cigars
Status: A 2010 release. Current.
History: Behike is the fourth line of cigars in the Cohiba brand.

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Forgot to mention in my last post. The BHK cigars used to sell for about 30-ish dollars per stick but due to a lack of wrapper leaf the supply has been very limited recently. Boxes of ten are going for around 750 dollars if you can find them at all. I like a good cigar but these aren't 30 dollars good much less 75 dollars good. I've had a couple and would pay about 15 per stick but not any more than that.

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