My window, balcony and garden: 2025
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JukkaPekka
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How many plants do you have? You must have big property.
Lots.
I’ve actually lost count. Whenever I had an empty seed tray- I refilled it, either with the same variety I want more of, or something new I’m interested in. I keep good track of the varieties, where they are, and what I’m doing with them (transplant times, fertilizer, etc.)
My motto is: Always. Plant. Back-ups.
If any plant dies, or an an entire variety is wiped out by a disease (I’m using new ground, after all), I have a different strain I can replace it with.
I’ve lost almost half a crop to squirrels, slugs, and weather.
My “field grow” is primarily for chewing tobacco, with some flue cured, as well.
But, I’m doing all this in an apartment and a leased garden space!
My seedling trays are currently filled with Vallejano, because of its short stature and fast maturing time. They might make it to a late container or field planting.
It is rather crowded.
Upper deck is Vallejano, a small pot of Small Stalk Black Mammoth and a runt Xanthi, another 12 Vallejano, a pot of Vallejano back up sprouts, a green tray of 12 Small Stalk Black Mammoth, and a square black pot of a slow Xanthi.
Lower deck:
12 Vallejano, 12 Canik, 12 One Sucker, 2 slow Xanthi in square black pots, and another 12 Vallejano….
Only the Canik and Xanthi have guaranteed homes, so far. The rest? Back ups.
Sadly, I had to purchase tomato and zucchini plants, because I started them too early, and they got too leggy. You can bury the extra stem, but it delays fruiting, which is not going to work in northern Germany, where a greenhouse is needed to get ripe tomatoes in the first place.
Lower deck:
12 Vallejano, 12 Canik, 12 One Sucker, 2 slow Xanthi in square black pots, and another 12 Vallejano….
Only the Canik and Xanthi have guaranteed homes, so far. The rest? Back ups.
Sadly, I had to purchase tomato and zucchini plants, because I started them too early, and they got too leggy. You can bury the extra stem, but it delays fruiting, which is not going to work in northern Germany, where a greenhouse is needed to get ripe tomatoes in the first place.
And the sad part?
I didn’t even get the seeds for a variety I really wanted to try: Semdinli.
Polygon has it on his site, but shipping from Russia to the EU is “problematic”.
DeepL translation of Polygon’s site:
Semdinli
Early Oriental from Turkey.
The variety is early. Period from planting to flowering - 39-47 (in fact 46) days.
The shape of the plant is cone-shaped. The height of the bush is about 0.9 meters. The flower is pink. The leaf is sessile, the leaf lamina is oval, green. The number of leaves is 10-12, the size of the leaf of the middle tier is 33x19 cm.
The variety is not resistant to diseases.
Additional information: This tobacco variety has a long history. It grows in the temperate climate and fertile soil of the Hakkâri Şemdinli region. It is one of the highest quality tobaccos with golden yellow color, unique smell and pleasant taste and is among the most preferred tobaccos. Some sources claim that it was this tobacco that satisfied the needs of the Ottoman palace.
Maturity Early maturing (39-47 days)
Maturation (days) 46
Number of tobacco leaves 12
Leaf size (10 leaves) 33x19 cm
Processing method Sun drying
tobacco.professorhome.ru
As near as I can find, it’s related to Bitlis, but more aromatic. It is hardly mentioned in a search of the FTT site, which really says something about its obscurity.
I didn’t even get the seeds for a variety I really wanted to try: Semdinli.
Polygon has it on his site, but shipping from Russia to the EU is “problematic”.
DeepL translation of Polygon’s site:
Semdinli
Early Oriental from Turkey.
The variety is early. Period from planting to flowering - 39-47 (in fact 46) days.
The shape of the plant is cone-shaped. The height of the bush is about 0.9 meters. The flower is pink. The leaf is sessile, the leaf lamina is oval, green. The number of leaves is 10-12, the size of the leaf of the middle tier is 33x19 cm.
The variety is not resistant to diseases.
Additional information: This tobacco variety has a long history. It grows in the temperate climate and fertile soil of the Hakkâri Şemdinli region. It is one of the highest quality tobaccos with golden yellow color, unique smell and pleasant taste and is among the most preferred tobaccos. Some sources claim that it was this tobacco that satisfied the needs of the Ottoman palace.
Maturity Early maturing (39-47 days)
Maturation (days) 46
Number of tobacco leaves 12
Leaf size (10 leaves) 33x19 cm
Processing method Sun drying
Semdinli | Сорта табака и махорки
Ранний ориентал из Турции. Сорт ранний. Период от посадки до цветения – 39-47 (по факту 46) дней.
tobacco.professorhome.ru
As near as I can find, it’s related to Bitlis, but more aromatic. It is hardly mentioned in a search of the FTT site, which really says something about its obscurity.
Given that there are many thousands (my guess: 5-10 thousand) of distinctly named varieties of Nicotiana tabacum throughout the world, it should come as no surprise that some of them might be considered obscure.
Bob
Bob
Then Hyang Cho bonsai in the greenhouse were cooked green and dry when temps in the greenhouse reached 52C!
(I may not have to buy any more gear to set up a flue curing chamber….)
The purple pot bonsai Xanthi was damaged, losing a couple of leaves, but they already recovered.
(I may not have to buy any more gear to set up a flue curing chamber….)
The purple pot bonsai Xanthi was damaged, losing a couple of leaves, but they already recovered.
Already have it- didn’t help.
Edit: all is not lost- the Hyang Cho in the zero row, and elsewhere around the field are doing fine!
This is not a good start to my first garden grow.
Jaffna, Virginia Gold, PYKY-171, and burley are all starting to flower. Jaffna and Virginia Gold are maybe 2 feet tall.
PYKY-171 and burley are barely a foot tall.
I’m going to let them finish, harvest them, and replant with the Vallejano, One Sucker, and Small Stalk Black Mammoth I have in the seedling trays in a month or so.
Hopefully the first frost of the year will be late.
Jaffna, Virginia Gold, PYKY-171, and burley are all starting to flower. Jaffna and Virginia Gold are maybe 2 feet tall.
PYKY-171 and burley are barely a foot tall.
I’m going to let them finish, harvest them, and replant with the Vallejano, One Sucker, and Small Stalk Black Mammoth I have in the seedling trays in a month or so.
Hopefully the first frost of the year will be late.
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Comicman43
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Beautiful plants i want to try growing some tobacco
Me, in my garden:
12 Canik moved into small pots and put off the balcony.
12 Canik moved from seedling tray and into small square black pots and placed in windowsill to harden off. They might go into the ground- haven’t decided yet.
12 Canik moved from seedling tray and into small square black pots and placed in windowsill to harden off. They might go into the ground- haven’t decided yet.
It feels like a game of chess.
Bob
Bob
DreadApache
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I've been reading this whole thread from the beginning for this. I'm also growing Hyang Cho this year. It's a fast grower and doesn't have a big footprint so you can plant tons of them. The high nicotine small leaves is what got me curious but then I saw it was sun cured. I was to use it as a nicotine booster but it just might taste good too. I haven't found any taste reviews for it online so looking forward to tasting it down the road. I have about 30 growing now, predicted 10 leaves are out and the flower buds are appearing. I'll let some flower and top half to see what difference in size it will have.
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The Ars-grin website shows a remarkable number of flavor compounds that are normally found in Oriental tobaccos.
It should taste pretty interesting.
