Natural Gas

[BigBonner]

Natural Gas ,Does anybody here know anything about it ?

A farm beside mine was recently sold to some Amish . They were drilling for a water well and hit natural gas .This is at the top of my hill that slopes over to my bottoms . and about 10 ft from my fence line .They hit it at a little over 300 ft down .
About a month ago I was doing deed research of the land around mine . I knoticed that one had the mineral rights sold about 50 + or - years ago . The rock formation is Rose run .

Any Info?

 

[deluxestogie]

You should contact a gas drilling company to see if they may be interested in drilling. It pays better than Big Tobacco. Your land may be an extension of the gas-bearing formations that extend through Ohio.

Bob

 

[Rayshields]

BigBonner, that is potentially great news. The downside is that there is a current glut of NG and the price is so low that drillers aren't drilling much. That is not likely to last very long because of all the political pressure to shut down all the coal electric generating plants. For the first time, it is cheaper to generate electricity with NG in the newer combined cycle plants, than coal in most of the older plants.

The plus side is that at only 300 feet deep it doesn't cost that much to drill. The new horizontal drilling techniques and fracking have brought an enormous amount of gas to market...I hope that you hit it big!

 

[BigBonner]

My brother lives 10 miles from me and there is a gas company who pays him like $1000 a year for his gas rights . They have not drilled or hit gas but they are paying alot of land owners where he lives for the rights by the year .The rumor is there is a big pocket running from where my brother lives up into Ohio .

I don't know but they may have just hit a pocket of gas and it won't last long .
I was thinking my son who lives at this farm may be able to tap or dirl a well for heating his home free from now on or , like you said it may be better than tobacco .With my luck I dought it will be a money maker .

I may have to stick my nose into the neighbors business and see if I smell gas . My son said he saw the flames from the well .

 

[BigBonner]

BigBonner, that is potentially great news. The downside is that there is a current glut of NG and the price is so low that drillers aren't drilling much. That is not likely to last very long because of all the political pressure to shut down all the coal electric generating plants. For the first time, it is cheaper to generate electricity with NG in the newer combined cycle plants, than coal in most of the older plants.

The plus side is that at only 300 feet deep it doesn't cost that much to drill. The new horizontal drilling techniques and fracking have brought an enormous amount of gas to market...I hope that you hit it big!

Coal , My mother was born in Bell County Ky and was living on a mountain of coal . My great great grandfather owned 3000 acres of nothing but hills and hollows . My great grandfather who was a Union Soldier had several brothers and sister and the land was divided up and sold over the years .My grandfather along with his two brothers and one sister was left with 300 acres which was sold off all except 3 acres .This was where my grandfather my mother and six other children lived .
The coal companies tore up all of that area for the coal . They did not care how they got the coal out or how destructive they were to get it .The creeks would run full of mud .

 

[BarG]

We have a natural gas well on our familys property since 1978 and they just drilled a new one in the bottom land by the river. If they are actualy drilling for oil or gas in Texas and they use slant drilling Than the neighbors get a share also. There is a limit to how far the property lines are to be eligible. I believe the reasoning is its most likely the same field or reserve for adjoining propertys.

Larry, Check your family history and see if your related to any R.J. Reynolds founders. A good friends grandfather was a cofounder of the company and left no will. They are searching Kentucky for heirs to settle the will. He was heavily invested in the stock. I believe they have found close to 40 scattered about. I wish I could rember the name but I could find out.

 

[Ishi]

BigBonner;
I think that each well that is drilled covers x amount of property. In PA they drilled a well on my brothers land and he told me that he got 2/3 if the money and the neighbor beside him got 1/3. They drilled another well on the neighbor on the other side of him and he received part of the money from that well. This was 20+ years ago and I think that they fingered 60 acres for the area of a well. Was your land leased? They will not drill if they do not have all the land leased that the well will cover. Do you have the mineral rights for your land?. My brother sold the land but kept the mineral rights and still gets a small check every month . They open them up and let them produce a lot of gas as soon as the get hooked up to the pipeline to pay for the well and then cut the gas flow way back so they can sell the gas from the next new well.

Best of luck
Dan

 

[BigBonner]

BarG

I don't have any Reynolds in my ancestry . Is there a family tree of R J Reynolds anywhere .


Ishi

I have the mineral rights . There is no coal where I live and no one around here sold mineral rights except for a piece of land joining property 600 ft from mine . I think it was sold for the iron ore .
Back in history there was several ore mines in the county where I live . There is two of the old rock iron ore furnaces hand built of big stones, one is about 7 miles from this property .

The furnaces was suposedly used at one time to make cannon balls . Check the link and the bottom picture is one of the furnace before a state road was built and it has changed alot of the landscape around it.
http://www.uky.edu/KGS/im/ironore.htm

Another link to the furnace http://www.oldindustry.org/KY_HTML/Ky_Bourbon.html

If this gas is close to the top , on my side it would be less than 300 ft down .We could afford to drill one and tap it off for my son to use for heating his home .

 

[BarG]

BarG

I don't have any Reynolds in my ancestry . Is there a family tree of R J Reynolds anywhere .


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I couldn't answer that but I imagine the info is out there ready to be dug up by the lawyers looking into this will settlement. My friend stands to gain a very substantial amount. Good luck on the Gas reserve under your property, I hope it works out well.

 

[Tom_in_TN]

If this gas is close to the top , on my side it would be less than 300 ft down .We could afford to drill one and tap it off for my son to use for heating his home .

And buy a gas powered truck...hope it works out OK.

 

[Ishi]

BigBonner;

The gas sand is not flat. they try to drill at the top of the dome as to get higher pressure and also so the gas will flow through the sand to the top of the dome or hill The city of Erie PA. had a well at 200ft. that they used at one tine to melt the snow collected from the streets.
Dan

 

[johnlee1933]

And buy a gas powered truck...hope it works out OK.

I know almost nothing about natural gas. Can it be compressed and used to power an engine like propane?

J

 

[leverhead]

I know almost nothing about natural gas. Can it be compressed and used to power an engine like propane?

J

Yea, the engines at compressor stations for the pipelines are huge. It's mostly methane, it obeys all the gas laws. L(iquified) N(atural) G(as) is moved in rail cars to tankers.

 

[BigBonner]

The hills where I live isn't very tall . The neighbor was trying to drill for water and hit the gas . I saw it for myself last night from the top of my other farm.Thats about a mile away . Its not burning very high .

From what I have been reading is that natural gas companies have quit drilling for natural gas because of the prices are so low. In my bottom flat land and drilling only 200 ft down to hit the gas . It may make a cheap heat source for my son providing there is enough of it .
I don't know if I could dig a well , tap it off and use it for the farm .


Johnlee

Some how they compress the gas and it turns to liquid then regasified for use like propane.

 

[leverhead]

A gas well is a little (allot) different from a water well. They cement the casing in pretty well and deep, then "perf" it. There's other stuff mixed in with it when it comes out of the ground, water, heavier hydrocarbons and depending on how "sour" it is, hydrogen sulfide. The hydrogen sulfide will eat up plain steels and it's poisonous. The heavier hydrocarbons will condense at pretty normal temperatures, the old timers called it drip gas. They would run they're cars on it, you had to change the spark advance so it wouldn't ping, but it was free.

 

[Chicken]

so will we see and watch your family,

on the next season's episodes, of BAYOU BILLIONEER'S,,???

 

[johnlee1933]

The heavier hydrocarbons will condense at pretty normal temperatures, the old timers called it drip gas. They would run they're cars on it, you had to change the spark advance so it wouldn't ping, but it was free.

Do you think it would run in the modern injected engines?

John

 

[deluxestogie]

Years ago, when I lived on a farm in northern Illinois, my water well's pump "house" was a concrete bunker built below the ground level about 20' in front of the house. It was surrounded by hedges--to hide it, and was accessed by a standard steel manhole cover. The chamber was about 6' deep, once you climbed down into it.

One day, while I was sitting in a room at the eastern end of the house, and my sister was sitting in a room at the western end of the house, I heard a loud, nearby explosion, like a cannon. I jumped up and ran to the front door, where I encountered my sister, who said the noise came from the East. I had heard the sound in the West. By triangulating the sounds, I headed straight for the pump "house." The heavy, steel manhole cover was lying in the grass, with broken tree limbs directly above the pump "house" opening.

Apparently, natural gas had seeped up from the water well and (being heavier than air) had accumulated within the concrete pump "house." When it had just the right gas/air mixture, the spark within the pump motor ignited it, and the explosion shot the manhole cover lord-knows how high into the air.

The well guy came out and installed an active vent.

Bob

 

[johnlee1933]

Years ago, when I lived on a farm in northern Illinois, my water well's pump "house" was a concrete bunker built below the ground level about 20' in front of the house. It was surrounded by hedges--to hide it, and was accessed by a standard steel manhole cover. The chamber was about 6' deep, once you climbed down into it.

One day, while I was sitting in a room at the eastern end of the house, and my sister was sitting in a room at the western end of the house, I heard a loud, nearby explosion, like a cannon. I jumped up and ran to the front door, where I encountered my sister, who said the noise came from the East. I had heard the sound in the West. By triangulating the sounds, I headed straight for the pump "house." The heavy, steel manhole cover was lying in the grass, with broken tree limbs directly above the pump "house" opening.

Apparently, natural gas had seeped up from the water well and (being heavier than air) had accumulated within the concrete pump "house." When it had just the right gas/air mixture, the spark within the pump motor ignited it, and the explosion shot the manhole cover lord-knows how high into the air.

The well guy came out and installed an active vent.

Bob

I have never before heard of someone getting a "bang" out of drinking water. You must be a cheap date.

J

 

[BigBonner]

I have never before heard of someone getting a "bang" out of drinking water. You must be a cheap date.

J

Johnlee

Deluxestogie is right about the gas in water wells .
When I was younger I would clean out wells for people . I would work at any job to make a dollar . I would pump out what water remained in the well then climb down and scrape up all the mud that settles in the bottom . This mud was cold and heavey . I would have a bucket on a string and I would fill it up for someone at the top to pull the mud up and dump the bucket , I didn't mind too much as it would be cool in the well . I just didn't like the mud that dropped from the buckets when pulled up .

Now the gas in water wells is dangerous . I used to work construction and one night when I got home and was eating supper . A four wheeler came flying up to my trailor . It was a friend on my youngest brother.
He and my little brother was cleanning my older brothers water well out . My stupid brother in law left those two boys there by themselves while he went to town for sodas .
The two boys decided to go ahead and start cleanning the well outwithout my brother in law therre with them
.The boy was tore all to pices and couldn't hardly talk . He told me that my little brother was in the well and he passed out and would not wake up . When I got there and climbed down into the well to my brother face was half in the mud and water and dead cold and not breathing .He was limber as a dish rag and too slick and heavey for one person to carry.
I cleaned the mud from his nose and mouth and tried to get him to breath . Finally he just made a couple of slight breaths .when the rescue finally got there we roaped him to the top and finally got him breathing . We took him and me to the hospital , by this time I was feeling the gas really good myself and couldn't hardly stand up .The hospital took my blood and said I was breathing like a 90 year old man . My little brother was a whole lot worse than me . They put him in a oxygen tent and he came out as good as new .
I knew to watch gas in wells . Gas will settle in the lower covered up wells and is dangerous and needs to be aired out before enetering ..