New boy grow 2021

[new boy]

Hi guys it’s new boy. I have grown and sun cured some Samsung. It has got some black spots round the edges and on the tips seems to be where the leaf was open to the air ie not bunched together. The spots won’t rub of or smudge. Any ideas I have added photos. I’ve tried it and it’s nice just bit concerned about mould the spots seemed to arrive at the end of the cure !

 

[deluxestogie]

It looks like mold to me. Under what conditions have the leaves been curing? [Samsung is an electronics company. Samsun is the tobacco variety from Samsun, Turkey.]

Bob

 

[new boy]

Oops yes Samsun. In Polly tunnel. 50-60 rh 25-30 celcius

 

[new boy]

Hi Bob anything I can do to rescue it ?

 

[deluxestogie]

Although it is likely microbial colonies of some sort, and may be relatively harmless, there is no way to clearly identify it without a laboratory. Also the photos are not clearly focused.



If it smells okay, then it is safe, so long as it is not used for smokeless or as a cigar wrapper. If your intent is to make smokeless, I would simply clip off the spotted portions, and use the remainder.

Bob

 

[new boy]

That’s really helpful Bob. No it smells fine sweet and nice. Will be used to blend for rolling tobacco. So I will get rid of the worst and use the rest. Thanks again Bob. I will get it out of the Polly tunnel quicker next time to rest in a barn once colour cured and stem has shrunk !!

 

[new boy]

Maybe more air flow needed !!

 

[new boy]

Although it is likely microbial colonies of some sort, and may be relatively harmless, there is no way to clearly identify it without a laboratory. Also the photos are not clearly focused.

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If it smells okay, then it is safe, so long as it is not used for smokeless or as a cigar wrapper. If your intent is to make smokeless, I would simply clip off the spotted portions, and use the remainder.

Bob

Thank you Bob. I have just harvested more Samsun. Have found some green fly. I’ve brushed what I can of before stringing it as I think I read on here that’s the only thing I can do. Any other tricks or advice ? Cheers

 

[new boy]

This site/blog is so helpful it’s great really glad I found it !!

 

[new boy]

Mad big leaf

 

[new boy]

Hello all my grow and cure seem to have gone well but haven’t had time to build a kiln ! I have put a rack next to my wood burner and planned to seal in bags for humidity and place here for heat. I’m worried about heat being too high what is the highest temp it will tolerate please if anybody knows. I have read Bobs kiln temps and understand they are best but as I said no kiln at present!!

 

[Oldfella]

I'd be very careful about placing it next to your wood burner. It would be a disaster if it caught on fire.
Oldfella

 

[Knucklehead]

Hello all my grow and cure seem to have gone well but haven’t had time to build a kiln ! I have put a rack next to my wood burner and planned to seal in bags for humidity and place here for heat. I’m worried about heat being too high what is the highest temp it will tolerate please if anybody knows. I have read Bobs kiln temps and understand they are best but as I said no kiln at present!!

2nd fermentation

Iv`e decided to give some of my tobacco a 2nd fermentation, will it better ( taste, aroma) the tobacco? I have read in a recent post that some growers did it, but can`t find the post. Do I ferment for 6 weeks again or shorter?

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Havana tobacco

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[deluxestogie]

A Kiln, Tobacco, the Process, and Why

Thank You LeftyRighty I started this thread to give background to help others through the learning curve. It is a hands on guide not a set of instructions, lets say Art with boundaries anything within the boundaries can work. All on topic input is of value, in sharing our experiences we can all...

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If you can avoid burning the place down, keeping the temp of the tobacco below 135°F (preferably below 130°F) will give you the best fermentation results. Going above 149°F will destroy the primary oxidase (aging) enzyme. At ~191°, you destroy both intrinsic enzymes. The hotter and the wetter, the more likely you will end up with Cavendish, rather than fermented tobacco.

Bob

 

[new boy]

A Kiln, Tobacco, the Process, and Why

Thank You LeftyRighty I started this thread to give background to help others through the learning curve. It is a hands on guide not a set of instructions, lets say Art with boundaries anything within the boundaries can work. All on topic input is of value, in sharing our experiences we can all...

fairtradetobacco.com

If you can avoid burning the place down, keeping the temp of the tobacco below 135°F (preferably below 130°F) will give you the best fermentation results. Going above 149°F will destroy the primary oxidase (aging) enzyme. At ~191°, you destroy both intrinsic enzymes. The hotter and the wetter, the more likely you will end up with Cavendish, rather than fermented tobacco.

Bob

Cheers Bob

That’s what I was after cheers. It is usually at about 125-130 but was concerned about spikes but hasn’t gone above 140 so should be ok. It’s in lightly vacuumed bags. The ones that will cope with 110 c so should be ok cheers

 

[new boy]

Do I need to ferment sun cured leaf guys ?

 

[deluxestogie]

You don't need to. My own preference is to kiln my sun-cured leaf. According to Constantinides' book, all of the sun-cured Orientals benefited from spending time as stacked bales inside the warehouses. That suggests "aging" to me.

Download a pdf of Constantinides' 1912 book: Turkish Tobacco: a Manual for Planters, Dealers and Manufacturers.

Bob

 

[new boy]

You don't need to. My own preference is to kiln my sun-cured leaf. According to Constantinides' book, all of the sun-cured Orientals benefited from spending time as stacked bales inside the warehouses. That suggests "aging" to me.

Download a pdf of Constantinides' 1912 book: Turkish Tobacco: a Manual for Planters, Dealers and Manufacturers.

Bob

Hi Bob cheers. I’m going to have to build a kiln !!

 

[deluxestogie]

Building a kiln now helps avoid physical injury from kicking yourself later, once you finally get around to it.

Bob

 

[new boy]

Yes I’m feeling the kick now just didn’t have time with work n kids n grow ! What size power crock pot do you use Bob? Like the volts amp watts and volume. im in uk so may have to convert