New to rolling: @Walton64

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Walton64

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Hello everyone, my name is Diane and we are new to rolling our own cigars. What I would like to know is, has anyone on here ever used any of the cigar rolling machines? If you have are they helpful or not and if you like them what brand would you suggest? My husband has been talking about them so I thought it might be a nice Christmas gift if they are worth it.
 

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Welcome to the forum. You may want to scan through the topics in our Index of Key Forum Threads, linked in the menu bar.

In response to your question, I hold the opinion that any machine for rolling cigars (often called a "Lieberman device") is ideal for optimizing high production rates in cigar factories. For a home roller, simple hand-rolling requires no more skill than learning to properly use a Lieberman.

For most beginners, rolling one cigar by hand, then smoking it prior to rolling the next will accelerate the learning. It takes hand-rolling about 10 cigars (roll one; smoke one) to reliably roll a cigar that draws properly. After hand-rolling about 30 cigars, they might even start to look pretty. Check our forum videos for cigar rolling methods.

An excellent source for cigar leaf is WholeLeafTobacco.com. They offer some "blend kits" that provide an introduction to the varieties of leaf that a cigar smoker may prefer.


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I’ve used the “poor man’s Lieberman” a WLT bag from a lb of tobacco, duct taped on the back of one of my rolling boards. It works ok, but can cause clogs if using straight short filler or scrap filler from other blends. It definitely helps with shaping a cigar, but have found more enjoyment out of rolling filler entubado style and using a mold or paper strips to help form the initial body of the cigar. Air flow with the entubado style greatly helps with the airflow and burn, as long as you don’t cinch or bend the entubado filler tubes as you bind them up. If it was me in your position I would spend the money on extra leaf to blend with. That way he can learn rolling a way that works for him. Going through WLT and getting at least 1 lb in a vacuum seal bag and using that bag as a “poor man’s Lieberman machine” by duct tapping one on me to the back of a cutting board does the same thing as a Lieberman. Working the tobacco in your hands before trying out other methods, greatly increased my knowledge in creating more enjoyable cigars with good airflow, over trying to go straight to the Lieberman. Just my 2 cents worth. There’s no quick shortcuts with rolling “good” cigars. Please no matter what, tell him about this forum and all of us here will help him along the way.
 
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