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waikikigun

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Lol, I thought the discussion was about the redundancy of the word Mexican. Like saying American Napa Valley wine.
Think about it for a second. A dude asks you what MSA stands for, and you reply "San Andres."

As we know now, the correct answer is "Habano San Andres."
 

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Some of the older historical sources suggest that Cuban cigar tobacco (what we consider the "Habano" archetype) originally came during pre-Columbian days from the Veracruz area of Mexico. This is similar to the name, "Panama hat", which has always referred to hats made from Ecuadorian toquilla straw, and manufactured in Bolivia.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't "habano" refer to tobacco grown from Cuban seed?

If that's the case, maybe someone could call a tobacco "San Andres Habano." For example, the La Aroma de Cuba Mi Amor has a Cuban seed wrapper grown in San Andres. (Most literature on this cigar just calls it a San Andres and doesn't mention the Cuban seed used for the wrapper, perhaps to avoid confusion.)

Again, please correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Again, please correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right and wrong and everywhere in between. The naming of tobacco varieties is a mess. Is it a man, or is it a Muppet? Should it be named for its genetic origin (often unclear) or by where this year's crop from the Cigar Brand du jour was grown, or named after the geographic location where it first became well known? ARS-GRIN kind of formalized some varietal names. Commercial cigar marketeers have preferred confusion and obfuscation. And a number of Internet vendors of tobacco seed have been "creative" with varietal names. So it's all perfectly clear, and clearly a perfect mess.

Bob
 

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After 2 months of packing, moving from Seattle to Sarasota, then Sarasota to Bradenton I finally got my stuff set up to roll again. Nice to get back to it.

Habano wrapper, Vuelta abajo binder, corojo and CV Criollo ligero, corojo viso, and a half leaf of PC ligero in the second half to close with a punch.
 

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After 2 months of packing, moving from Seattle to Sarasota, then Sarasota to Bradenton I finally got my stuff set up to roll again. Nice to get back to it.

Habano wrapper, Vuelta abajo binder, corojo and CV Criollo ligero, corojo viso, and a half leaf of PC ligero in the second half to close with a punch.
Nice job. I actually have a good friend who lives in Bradenton.
 
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