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mkefarmboy

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Hey ya'll... Thinking of going back to growing a bit of tobacco here. Taxes on smokes and dip are killing us here. My cope is $7 per can and that's cheap for here. Cigs are almost $8. I grew up farming flue cured in SC, so I do know how to grow it, although air curing is going to be totally new to me. Just gonna browse around the forums and see what I can figure out. I have a large lot here in the city, so this will just be an extension of my large garden anyhow.
 

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Taxes on smokes and dip are killing us here. My cope is $7 per can and that's cheap for here. Cigs are almost $8.
Yup, same prices as here now. So f*** em and grow your own. Then the tax man gets nothing from you. And buy a yellow vest. Lots of people here are and just waiting for that match to be lit. It's not just tobacco. It's everything!. Property taxes are insane here. There is a 9%+ sales tax on everything you buy, even on Amazon or E-bay now. Insane fuel taxes and license fees, tire tax, battery tax, oil disposal fee. Half the cost of owning a car is tax. Every thing you do here in this state requires a permit, license or fee of some kind now. I have to pay $10 a day to even visit a state park, which is land the residents of this state own! It makes my blood boil just thinking about it all. And Bob might ban me if I rant on too long, so....

Back to tobacco. With what you already know about tobacco, you should have few problems with air curing. Warm and humid for coloring, just like with flu curing. My greenhouse works well for this stage. Once colored, dry it as fast as you can to avoid mold and get that bright color. I hang it out in the sun for a few days if the weather permits, then move it to my barn. The biggest challenge is adapting the process to fit you local climate conditions and the resources you have to work with for curing and drying.

And welcome to the FT forum. Lots of great people here. I'm betting you'll fit in well. :)
 

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Welcome.

Its about the most profitable/money saving crop a tobacco user can grow.

Edible vegetables you have to factor in cost of canning or freezing and storage. .... Once tobacco is colored and dried its just a pile of ziplocks in the closet.
 

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Get some tobacco. 12 bucks a pound can't go wrong and It is aged. For me if I were to grow aging and fermentation is important and that takes time, For me It would be 2 years from the first grow and the time involved. I know both WLT and Big Bonner give a generous pound.
 

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Well, for right now this will just stay in the experiment phase. See where it goes. I have 2 jobs, teaching school and managing a farm. The farm is literally 30 minutes from downtown Milwaukee. We are looking at more farm to table type stuff (maybe farm to smoke?) and with my background, tobacco just works in. Obviously we would follow all relevent laws, but right now its for my personal use, so not an issue. We currently produce numerous amounts of veggies as well as meat for the local market.
 

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Welcome on FTT,
if you already have experience with growing tobacco then you will do just fine ;)
Good luck.
 

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Just wait for the sale and buy what you need for a year. It's getting out of hand for sure especially with the Canadian dollar
 

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Welcome! I feel your pain. Mama Michigan decided to impose a new excise tax on cigar purchases starting Jan. 2022 - on top of the 6% sales tax! So the excise tax is 33% of the wholesale cost of each cigar purchased, up to $0.50 per cigar. The cost of a box of twenty $5.00 cigars that used to retail for $106.00 with sales tax is now up to $116.00 per box. Buying whole leaf and trying my hand at growing some as well to keep "the man" at arms length...
 
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