Syrian Latakia!

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DonH

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I was in Atlanta this week (for work, no NCAA championship or Masters unfortunately). I went to a great little tobacco shop in the Buckhead area, Edward's Pipe and Cigar stores. Nice place, the owner lets you sample and there aren't many shops that cater to pipe smokers. I thought I would buy some bulk Latakia, so I asked for three ounces and he told me "this is Syrian Latakia. Not sure if we'll be able to get any more." It is!!! Make it six ounces. No one has this." I tested a bit, tasted really good. I plan to compare it to the Cyprian stuff.
 

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These sort of post really get me! I mean come on guys! Here I am stuck in nz where its only erinmore or borkumm MAybe amphora... Just finished a tin of macbarens latakia spun cut. it was a 10 yr old tin was very nice
 

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I was in Atlanta this week (for work, no NCAA championship or Masters unfortunately). I went to a great little tobacco shop in the Buckhead area, Edward's Pipe and Cigar stores. Nice place, the owner lets you sample and there aren't many shops that cater to pipe smokers. I thought I would buy some bulk Latakia, so I asked for three ounces and he told me "this is Syrian Latakia. Not sure if we'll be able to get any more." It is!!! Make it six ounces. No one has this." I tested a bit, tasted really good. I plan to compare it to the Cyprian stuff.
You were about 90 miles from here.
 

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..."this is Syrian Latakia. Not sure if we'll be able to get any more." It is!!! Make it six ounces. No one has this." I tested a bit, tasted really good...

If I were you I would buy at least a pound of it.
 

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If I were you I would buy at least a pound of it.
Yes, I should have. It was so unexpected I wasn't thinking clearly. He just casually mentioned that it was Syrian as he was starting to weigh it out. I was so surpised I didn't even ask him how much it was and I am low on cash this month. And it was the store's closing time and I was on my way to the airport so I can't go back right away, but I think I'll give him a call and see if he ships or can set some aside for me until I get back down there.

I should have bought a large quantity and sold some of it at cost plus shipping to people here. The more I thought about it later I realized it could be 10 years before we see new supplies of this.
 

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JBD asked me in the PM for the phone number for the store if I was sure it was really Syrian Latakia. Good question.

That was definitely a concern which is another reason I didn't buy a pound or more. I've never tasted any other Syrian but I've been doing some side by side testing and I think it is. I read a description by G.L. Pease on the differences (http://www.glpease.com/Articles/Latakia.html)and he said the Syrian is higher in nicotine and I think this stuff is. It also has a fuller taste and Pease said Cyprian is made from Turkish leaf but Syrian is made from a different variety. The smoke flavor is similar but I think I detected more of a piney flavor to the Cyprian which I think is part of the difference. The Syrian has some pineyness but also more burnt herb flavor. The Cyprian definitely tastes like Izmir is the base rather than a stronger tasting tobacco. Luckily I like to smoke pure Latakia.

Bottom line, if it's not Syrian it is still by far the best Latakia I've tried so you can't go wrong since he's not price gouging.

Here is what Pease said about the two:

Though the original Latakia of Syria, a necessary ingredient of many classic mixtures of yesteryear, and the now more common Cyprian leaf, share a name and a curing technique, these two tobaccos are quite distinct from one another, each having unique qualities, and very different personalities.


Syrian Latakia is produced from the long, narrow leaves of the plant known as "shekk-el-bint." After harvesting, the leaf is sun-dried, then hung in barns to be smoked over smoldering fires of local herbs and woods, imparting the characteristic smoky aroma and distinctive flavor. Shekk-el-bint is a strong tobacco, possessing a hefty dose of nicotine which is partially responsible for the robust "body" of the smoke. After the long curing process, the leaf is a deep mahogany/brown color, with a pungent, earthy, slightly sharp, smoky aroma reminiscent of driftwood campfires on the beach. Its very assertive flavor is spicy and somewhat tangy; perhaps one could even consider it tart, and it can easily dominate a blend if used in large measure, prevailing over all but the most robust Virginias. In small amounts, it mingles delicately with its cohorts; in large quantities, it tends to elect itself to high office. Smoked straight, it becomes downright dictatorial - sensory overload occurs quickly, and the tangy aftertaste lingers on the tongue. It can also create spinning rooms for those not accustomed to or tolerant of large doses of nicotine.


Syrian Latakia's island cousin from across the Mediterranean begins life as as a plant of the the small leafed Smyrna, or Izmir variety. This is a Turkish type tobacco, containing little nicotine, and known for its delicately sweet flavor and excellent burning characteristics. The harvested leaf is air-cured in sheds, and then fumigated in a manner similar that used for Syrian Latakia. The finished product is nearly black, with a deeper, darker aroma than the Syrian counterpart. Its flavor, in comparison, presents less piquancy, and a rounder, less focused smokiness. Its notable sweetness is unlike that of a matured Virginia, or a flavored aromatic, but somewhat more sneaky, coming in to camp under cover of darkness. Though more gentle than Syrian in its nature, Cyprian Latakia can nevertheless be opaque, overwhelming more delicate tobaccos if used in very large measure. A similar sensory overload to that of the Syrian variety occurs if Cyprian is smoked straight, sans Hollywood special effects, though the aftertaste is somewhat more ephemeral.


Each of these tobaccos provides a distinct and unique color on the blender's palette, and with Syrian Latakia's long absence, many hues in the spectrum of English style mixtures have been all but missing. That the supply line is once again open is truly exciting news for the lover of these sophisticated tobaccos, as it expands and extends the range of possibilities for creating new blends, while simultaneously affording the opportunity to perhaps revive some of the classic blends of the past.

Given all this, I think this really may be Syrian Latakia. I'd be interested in what people who have tasted Syrian before think.
 

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Samples please , I know JBD and Deluxestogie are the resident Latakia sampler testers, and any other fine and rare tobaccos.;)
 

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So far as I can determine, the only reference to "shekk-el-bint" in the tobacco literature comes directly from the sometimes unreliable (though interesting) book by Milton Sherman [Sherman MM: All About Tobacco. 1970. Available for download from www.tobaccodocuments.org. (The images of the pages are no longer available, but all the OCR text is still there.)]

Most Latakia discussions in tobacconist websites are written by those with little or no direct experience in the production or manufacture of Latakia. Some (a rare few) commentators have actually smoked both Cyprian and the various incarnations of Syrian Latakia.

So, everything that you (DonH) can add to the discussion and comparison is truly experience-based and valuable. Although you may not be able to state with certainty that a particular batch is indeed from Syria, any comparisons of it with Latakia from other vendors is information gained.

Bob
 

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This blend is the most common Latakia here in Portugal.

I smoke it all the time and i love it.

If anyone wants to try it i would be glad to send you some.
 
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