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Today I'm getting the rain I needed to wash in my fertilizer. Now bring on the hot, sunshiny days!!
what N-P-K- formula did you use,??
i sent JOHNLEE some pure '' nitrogen''
13 lbs. of it,
perhaps if youd like a special mix and will pay postage. i can get you some pure fertilizer, or a special blend .. did you get a soil analysis, on your soil.?
perhaps a 4-8-12, would do you good
ive got some '' rainbow'' fertilizer. i gave WORKHORSE. a nice blend, i think it helped his crop to '' get going ''
maybe not to use this year.. but maybe you could,
id gladlly send you a package if you'd like one or think you need one,
but your fertilizing you just did, may set you up. for thee end of the crop.??
It was my new seedlings that I put some fertilizer on. A little 10-10-10 to help them get started after a few days in the ground so i wouldn't shock them too much after transplant. I did have a soil test. pH was 7.0. I was a tad low on nitrogen and I forget the other numbers. I'll let them go a couple more weeks, maybe about the time of their first growth spurt I'll put some more on them. I tend to feed them a little bit as they go along, rather than one big dose. Especially that first planting that got nearly daily rain their whole life. fertilizer was leaching out of the soil about as fast as I could apply it.
Don't forget that tobacco is a tropical plant. Daily rain isn't a problem, so long as there is adequate drainage.
Bob
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DGBAMA
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That explains a lot......and may be the only reason mine are still growing.
DGBAMA
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Knucks.....have confidence. The new planting will be fine in a few days.
The new planting is doing fine. No issues. The soil is better than the first patch, less clay, and they get a lot more sunlight. The first patch didn't get as much light as I was hoping during the spring, and now that the sun is higher in the summer it gets almost full sun, but it's too late, it about harvest time. The first patch won't be used next year. I will definitely be prepping the second patch for next year this fall though. We got a 4' tiller for the tractor and I'll till in manure, peat, leaves and rotten saw dust, maybe a little sand, then plant crimson clover. The soil will be in much better shape next spring. The rains really compacted it this year. I'll want it much looser next year. My father wants a vegetable garden next year, so we'll be prepping that ground too.
AmaxB
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Is good to read you are going to be able to get something so your work has not been wasted. I'll be doing a veggie garden myself next year to must haves will be Red Beets and Tomatoes. I went big (well big for me) this year with 248 plants but next year I'll do maybe 100 and 3 to 4 types. So half of my patch will be veggies and the other half Tobacco.
if your clay issue is too bad, i'd suggest doing like i do,,,, throw away 2 gallons worth of dirt from the hole, and replace it with better dirt,
allthough i just toss about a gallon worth and replace it with organic manure material,
allthough i just toss about a gallon worth and replace it with organic manure material,
Latest pictures. Today's view of my first patch. Too much clay, too much rain, not enough sun in the spring. I won't plant this spot again. 
My 15 wrapper varieties for seed (and killer wrapper leaf). Three plants need replacement, I've transplanted the back ups to 6" pots to perk them back up before transplanting into the ground.
This is my second patch for seed grow outs. (I'll be needing the leaf too, after the first patch disaster)
These are two Turks and seven Bulgarian varieties from GRIN for the FTT seed bank.
The Alma-Ata 315 that Emre expressed an interest in. PI 293909. A Bulgarian variety.
Bob showed an interest in Djebel in one of the threads. This is Djebel 174, PI 321709. Another Bulgarian.
Curing lugs from YTB, TN 90, VA K326. One short string of Dominican Olor leaf. The marker tape (survey tape?) is working out well for labeling. I'll be labeling the seed bags with it today when I spray for aphids.
About half of my Samsun-Maden in yellowing mode. Once they're yellow, they'll be moved into the sun for finishing. (two stringing methods) RH has been in upper 70's to low 80's. I have my shop fan running full time. No mold yet.
Name that virus and solution...
My 15 wrapper varieties for seed (and killer wrapper leaf). Three plants need replacement, I've transplanted the back ups to 6" pots to perk them back up before transplanting into the ground.
This is my second patch for seed grow outs. (I'll be needing the leaf too, after the first patch disaster)
These are two Turks and seven Bulgarian varieties from GRIN for the FTT seed bank.
The Alma-Ata 315 that Emre expressed an interest in. PI 293909. A Bulgarian variety.
Bob showed an interest in Djebel in one of the threads. This is Djebel 174, PI 321709. Another Bulgarian.
Curing lugs from YTB, TN 90, VA K326. One short string of Dominican Olor leaf. The marker tape (survey tape?) is working out well for labeling. I'll be labeling the seed bags with it today when I spray for aphids.
About half of my Samsun-Maden in yellowing mode. Once they're yellow, they'll be moved into the sun for finishing. (two stringing methods) RH has been in upper 70's to low 80's. I have my shop fan running full time. No mold yet.
Name that virus and solution...
I was pulling some grass out from under the spun fabric I used on this second patch and nearly died. I was thinking snake the whole time my hand was up under the fabric and I pulled out a handful of grass and a tree frog. I saw the head and felt the slimy feel of it in my hand and I almost had an apoplexy. I still have grass under that stuff but I seem to have developed a phobia. I don't know what to do now. I didn't have that problem with the woven fabric on the first patch, it was a tighter weave and heavier. The spun fabric is letting too much light through and the grass is growing under it. I don't think this would be a problem in an established patch where several ground turnings had killed off most of the grass and weeds, but it's a problem in this virgin patch. My heart is still hammering away at about 200 BPM.
Yep, bout the same as reaching down for a chunk of logger's rope left in the woods and finding out it ain't.
marksctm
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That'll make your pooper pucker!
Yes, definitely!! What kind of poisonous snakes are in your area? My location is notorious for rattlesnakes, but we also have copperheads and a few cottonmouths. The cottonmouths are fairly rare now, but they're mean, they'll chase after you.
Copper heads are most common with a few rattlers thrown in for spice.
It would work for a second grow, but it doesn't get enough sun in the spring. When we cleared that whole area for the pond, the trees around the edge only had leaves at the tops and the first patch area had full sun. Now the trees have put on lower limbs and when the sun is low in the sky in the spring, it shades the patch. It is just now beginning to get full sun during the day due to the sun being higher in the sky. I didn't notice this until I had the patch in. Since I won't be growing so many plants next year, that second patch will be plenty if I make it a little larger. It gets full sun year around since it's more toward the middle of the clearing. In this second patch, since the rows are at least 8' apart, I'm experimenting with 16" spacing between the plants. Since I can get to both sides of each row (even from the four wheeler), and each row gets full sun with no shading from the next row, I'm hoping it works out so I can fit more plants into the space. There's really no data to go by for 8' row spacing.
You got that right. You couldn't have pulled a wet noodle out of my nether regions they were drawn up so tight.
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