UPS > USPS

[ZigZagZeppelin]

It's a good thing WLT gave us shipping options. Instead of 16 days to my house UPS got it here in 3 days. Actually it went from Ohio to NY in ONE day. I just paid for 3 day shipping so it was delivered on day 3.

I will continue to use UPS as my shipping method.

the NY usps is impacted slightly by the covid 19 mess, deliveries are 1 or 2 days late. But that Ohio post office near Don is frighteningly slow. My packages would stay in Ohio for 10 days or more before being scanned.

If you live in the USA the best option for shipping just might be UPS.

I appreciate being given shipping options.

Well done, Don.

 

[Knucklehead]

My new Powermatic shredder was shipped UPS and arrived in about two days. Possibly three but no more than three, I was pleasantly surprised. I sent some stuff to MarcL by USPS months ago that never did show up. It disappeared like smoke, I hope that postman appreciates good leaf. SMH.

 

[springheal]

Doing a google search and reading reviews about usps, they get an incredibly poor rating. My recent experience with usps has been astonishingly efficient. within the u.s Once it departs for little ol n.z it was another 2 weeks as the package departed Lax, then to Japan on then to n.z. We still have a couple of direct passenger flights a week from Lax to Auckland n.z. so it's strange to use a flight via Japan. A small package with usps to n.z. (priority post) was $39.00 usd . But was worth it for the parts I required.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I will continue to use USPS because they hand off packages to Canada Post at the border. Canada post customs brokerage is significantly less expensive than UPS customs brokerage.

 

[webmost]

The RedHead ordered a box of fudge, Vermont to DullAware, paying for 2-day UPS. UPS handed it off to our local post office for delivery. They sent it to Philadelphia Distribution Center. The thing about Distribution Centers is, once your package gets there, very little actual distribution takes place. They sat on it for a week.

At the same time, I ordered leaves from WLT. IOnstead of coming to DullAware, they went straight to Philadelphia Distribution Center. The thing about Distribution Centers is, once your package gets there, very little actual distribution takes place. They sat on it for a week and a half.

I ordered a Deejo knife from France last Thursday. It shipped from Orleans Friday. It arrived Monday. DHL. Thru customs both countries. Coulda had quicker delivery sending leaves DHL via Orleans France.

 

[FmGrowit]

We're having issues with UPS Canada now. UPS Canada customs (yes, UPS has its own Canada customs in-house) does not recognize Canada law when it comes to leaf tobacco. If the invoice says "tobacco", UPS Canada customs only sees it as being a tobacco product.

The details are supposed to be worked out soon and when we get to our previously agreed to agreement, there will be no broker fees associated with UPS Canada customs.

For Domestic orders, UPS offers this extra fancy service called "UPS Pro". We ship with UPS and then UPS takes our orders to the local USPS office for delivery. I asked the sales rep "and you're going to charge me more for that?" I guess it's a better system when the whole system is operating properly.

 

[webmost]

Oh well. Bidgebidgebidge. Gets you nowhere.

I would hate to be the Postmaster General right now. The Post Office is an anachronism. I do not have a single household bill which travels by snail mail these days. Lectric, water, trash, heating oil, you name it ... all automagically on-line. Even taxes, and the other taxes, and, yes, those other taxes too, are all automagic. Even social security. Not even the gummint does pays its step-child for snail mail. Last time I opened a household account, four years ago, the gal asked me if I wanted to order checks. I replied: "What for?" She gave me the 3 free checks that you get with the account paperwork. I still have them here, somewhere, if I could find them. The point is: No snail mail means no stamps. The post office still has to deliver to me and everyone else on the block six days a week and has to pay for it by selling stamps. Who's paying them? Not me. Not the electric company. Not water. USPS get no regular money. None. Meanwhile, out front on the main road a developer is building like 350 townhouses in a huge lot (that the church sold them in defiance of the will of the guy who left it to the church). That's 350 more deliveries the post office has to make. Who pays for that? Amazon delivers next day. Jeff Bezos is making a gajillion bucks, and he's re-investing it in a fleet of trucks, drivers, sorters, and such. Amazon only stops if they have made a sale to you. Thanks to AOC, Amazon is building a nine story robotic warehouse, their largest in the world, right here in DullAware

No way for USPS to succeed.
Would not want to be that guy.

 

[deluxestogie]

"And while some may argue that the USPS is becoming more obsolete as an increasing number of services are becoming digitalized, there’s still a large chunk of people who rely on mail because they have poor (or no) internet service. (The Federal Communications Commission estimates that 14.5 million people in rural areas lack access to broadband.) In fact, 18 percent of Americans still pay their bills by mail, according to an ACI Worldwide report; meanwhile, 20 percent of adults over 40 who take medication for a chronic condition get those pills by mail order, according to a survey by the National Community Pharmacists Association."

If the US Postal Service fails, rural America will suffer the most

The USPS is “a lifeline” for many remote and Native communities.

www.vox.com

Bob

 

[FrostD]

Placed my order on Friday. Arrived today ON TIME! Granted this is through Winter Advisories & Warnings. UPS for the win on shipping.
True credit goes to @FmGrowit ! Very very appreciative! This is my second order through WLT and I all I can say, is that so far shipping has been on time if not early! Service, actually gets back to you and are kind and helpful to “newbies”! Not to mentionhow Don takes care of you with your orders. It’s never necessary, but shows the level of appreciation WLT has for its customers. Companies who handle their business this way, will ALWAYS get my continued support!

Thank you Don!

P.S. I can’t wait to open them all(once they get acclimated). Everything looked packaged top notch (I’m surprised they fit everything into this size box!)

 

[FmGrowit]

USPS was never set up to do deliveries of packages over 1 lb - 2 lbs. Deliveries of toasters and vacuum cleaners should be left up to UPS and FedEx.

 

[webmost]

USPS was never set up to do deliveries of packages over 1 lb - 2 lbs. Deliveries of toasters and vacuum cleaners should be left up to UPS and FedEx.

Yeah, I dunno about that. A century ago, you could mail a child! True story. I'm not making that up.


Looks to me like Junior there weighs more'n a pound.

 

[webmost]

"And while some may argue that the USPS is becoming more obsolete as an increasing number of services are becoming digitalized, there’s still a large chunk of people who rely on mail because they have poor (or no) internet service. (The Federal Communications Commission estimates that 14.5 million people in rural areas lack access to broadband.) In fact, 18 percent of Americans still pay their bills by mail, according to an ACI Worldwide report; meanwhile, 20 percent of adults over 40 who take medication for a chronic condition get those pills by mail order, according to a survey by the National Community Pharmacists Association."

If the US Postal Service fails, rural America will suffer the most

The USPS is “a lifeline” for many remote and Native communities.

www.vox.com

Bob

None of which exceptions to the rule makes it pay, Bob.

 

[deluxestogie]

I suppose we have to judge if the US Postal Service is a service or a business.

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Canada Post is a Crown Corporation. In a sense, it's seen as a part of infrastructure, just like roads, railways, ferries, and air, getting things to places. You take away public ownership and the ability to provide service for the public good, rather than exclusively for profit, and you get something like what's happened with Greyhound refusing to service remote communities because of the bottom line—totally fair for a private company—but something that leaves a hole for a large number of people.

 

[FrostD]

Canada Post is a Crown Corporation. In a sense, it's seen as a part of infrastructure, just like roads, railways, ferries, and air, getting things to places. You take away public ownership and the ability to provide service for the public good, rather than exclusively for profit, and you get something like what's happened with Greyhound refusing to service remote communities because of the bottom line—totally fair for a private company—but something that leaves a hole for a large number of people.

Excellent point. The battles of USPS, UPS, FedEx continues... I remember that some are great for different reasons. Lessons learned on many many levels myself. @ChinaVoodoo does the size or weight of packages make a difference for you depending on carrier?

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Excellent point. The battles of USPS, UPS, FedEx continues... I remember that some are great for different reasons. Lessons learned on many many levels myself. @ChinaVoodoo does the size or weight of packages make a difference for you depending on carrier?

I can't really compare.
I've only used USPS for WLT because years ago I realized that couriers always cost more for products crossing the border. But @FmGrowit says that they're working that out, which is great. Also, if it's something I have to pick up, the post office /shoppers drug mart has great hours and is professional and not sketchy. Some of the random pick up places for the various couriers don't seem secure, and the warehouses are out of the way.

With outgoing mail, I've only used Canada Post because I have no reason not to, and because they're ubiquitous.

If I was shipping something heavy like a motorcycle or a stack of tile, I'd probably have to call a private oilfield shipping jobby or something.

I mailed stuff home via DHL in Berlin once. What a pain that was.

 

[FrostD]

I can't really compare.
I've only used USPS for WLT because years ago I realized that couriers always cost more for products crossing the border. But @FmGrowit says that they're working that out, which is great. Also, if it's something I have to pick up, the post office /shoppers drug mart has great hours and is professional and not sketchy. Some of the random pick up places for the various couriers don't seem secure, and the warehouses are out of the way.

With outgoing mail, I've only used Canada Post because I have no reason not to, and because they're ubiquitous.

If I was shipping something heavy like a motorcycle or a stack of tile, I'd probably have to call a private oilfield shipping jobby or something.

I mailed stuff home via DHL in Berlin once. What a pain that was.

Oh man, I can only imagine. All of them have so many confusing forms in my opinion. I used to ship things more internationally in the past through FedEx. FedEx can be super fast internationally, but you pay an arm and a leg. USPS was always the best when shipping to Canada, but always took awhile. In the USA it’s my preferred method... in most cases. They are spread too thin at the moment I think. UPS has been a good experience so far for me, decent cost to ship and arrival times. DHL... for me they were always a last case option, which didn’t occur too often. They just make me feel like I would have better chances of winning the lotto than having my package arrive for 1, safely for 2.

 

[webmost]

I suppose we have to judge if the US Postal Service is a service or a business.

Bob

Either one must meet a budget.

No, it's a miserable situation. I would not want to be that guy. If I were the big donor getting my back scratched, I'd insist on an ambassadorship, or FEMA, or a no-bid contract for ammo. USPS is not the sinecure of choice.

Just now fetched the mail. Five ads in large envelopes. Only one addressed to me. It came all the way from San Diego for a mere 23 cents. Included a genuine lookin' faux credit card, with an accompanying letter that claims I pre-qualify for $300,000.

While I was strolling to the mailbox, BJs sent me an email. Just now I clicked for the pay page, clicked pay, clicked confirm, and that's all it took to pay them $699.26.

Money flows. Snail mail blows.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Money flows. Snail mail blows.

 

[deluxestogie]