2014 Knucklehead Grow Blog
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grgfinney
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His ears are perfectly lined up with the baccy leaves, btw looking good there Knucks
Brown Thumb
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Is that one of those Miniature Shepard's?
Looking Real Good Knucks.
Looking Real Good Knucks.
Yes it is! I'll have a much better chance this year. The late start and early frost last year cost me some varieties.
I've noticed that. Weird. Not such a big deal for me this year since I'm growing mostly for seed. 78 different varieties. Some of you guys are taking a big hit on leaf production though.
She does look kind of funny now that you mention it. She does have big ears but not that big!
I posed her that way. lol.
Na, she's actually too big for a female. 85 lbs. Too many people are breeding for size regardless of other traits. They're going to end up ruining the breed. Kind of like bagging the wrong plants. She's super smart though.
I washed the aphids off all my plants with a water hose. I lifted leaves where necessary and separated the leaves at the bud head or growth head. The entire patch. The plants look clean and happy. Just a 1-3 second blast per leaf removed live aphids, dead aphids, aphid poo, aphid honeydew, eggs, grasshopper poo, worm poo, grass, mud, etc. I hosed off the ruffles at the leaf base and the stalks. I'm talking clean. 80% of the plants had some aphids, mostly around the crown and bud head. Some were infested down to the mud lugs. Here are some before and after pictures. They are not of the same leaves, I forgot which were the before pictures after all the plants were clean. I'll start priming some varieties in a couple of weeks, so that leaf should be very clean. If I washed off any nicotine, the plants will have time to generate more. Deducting the time I spend suckering, pulling mud lugs, watering two rows, etc. I think I spent 3-4 hrs. on washing the plants.
BEFORE : this plant was pretty much infested.
AFTER: I think these are different leaves. It was hard to tell where I took the before pictures after all the leaf was clean. The majority of the leaf in the patch is cleaner than these two leaves.
BEFORE : this plant was pretty much infested.
AFTER: I think these are different leaves. It was hard to tell where I took the before pictures after all the leaf was clean. The majority of the leaf in the patch is cleaner than these two leaves.
DGBAMA
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Big difference. your hard work will be rewarded.
Brown Thumb
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I can burly get the time to sucker my plants let alone wash the leaf.
Last yr. I got hit hard by them little bastards most came off in handling.
My patch is clean so far of them and hornworms but I did not check yet tonight.
I call that dedication that is a lot of plants you have.
BT
Last yr. I got hit hard by them little bastards most came off in handling.
My patch is clean so far of them and hornworms but I did not check yet tonight.
I call that dedication that is a lot of plants you have.
BT
I'm curious to see what happens. I think by just using water they got themselves a nice shower. They might dry themselves off and be back. Were these plants topped by any chance? Topping greatly reduces aphid attacks.
Two out of three plants will be bagged. One out of three will be topped.
I'm interested to see if they crawl back up there and how long it will take them. But, the dead ones, the poo, the misc. crap they leave behind won't be back. Only new poo, etc. BTW, I washed a whole lot of soap off the underside of those leaves also. Quite a bit of soap suds. I still plan on soaping the new ones as they appear. I have sprayed soap practically every day since it quit raining a couple of weeks ago and I still ended up with live and dead aphids everywhere. I don't wear my reading glasses down there so some of those dead aphids must have been sprayed twenty times. This will keep the work and soap to a minimum at least for a while.
I'm interested to see if they crawl back up there and how long it will take them. But, the dead ones, the poo, the misc. crap they leave behind won't be back. Only new poo, etc. BTW, I washed a whole lot of soap off the underside of those leaves also. Quite a bit of soap suds. I still plan on soaping the new ones as they appear. I have sprayed soap practically every day since it quit raining a couple of weeks ago and I still ended up with live and dead aphids everywhere. I don't wear my reading glasses down there so some of those dead aphids must have been sprayed twenty times. This will keep the work and soap to a minimum at least for a while.
Thanks guys. It was a good bit of work, but will save some work and did have the advantage of getting rid of two months of accumulated crap and detritus, flotsam, and jetsam. Time will tell if it was worth the effort.
If you can get a water hose to your patch, the wrapper leaf and that yummy upper leaf of the Orientals looks really nice after being cleaned up. The Orientals were untopped and the opened bud head with all that tiny leaf was an aphid magnet.
Hosing works beautifully, even though it's only temporary. I don't think aphids will crawl from the dirt back up to the top of a plant. The aphids that reappear will be newbies.
The issue of washing nicotine off of green leaf is likely insignificant, since all that is washed away is what has been secreted by the little glandular hairs (trichomes). There is a load of nicotine within the lamina that stays there. By contrast, washing brown leaf definitely extracts nicotine from the lamina.
For me, dragging the hose out to and back from the tobacco is easily as much work as washing the plants. So it only happens when there's a big dance coming up.
Bob
The issue of washing nicotine off of green leaf is likely insignificant, since all that is washed away is what has been secreted by the little glandular hairs (trichomes). There is a load of nicotine within the lamina that stays there. By contrast, washing brown leaf definitely extracts nicotine from the lamina.
For me, dragging the hose out to and back from the tobacco is easily as much work as washing the plants. So it only happens when there's a big dance coming up.
Bob
Brown Thumb
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Since I have not any bug Problem. Other than with Jap beetles which don't appear to DoO DoO.
The Bird Chit is starting to piss me off on the leaf. It Never bothered me before, It was the Least of my worries.
BT
The Bird Chit is starting to piss me off on the leaf. It Never bothered me before, It was the Least of my worries.
BT
I dragged the hose to the end of each row with my four wheeler. 100' rows. By pulling the hose back, I only had to pull 50' of hose by hand per 100' row to get the whole row. I went down two sides of each row.
Rickey60
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I washed the aphids off my plants a couple weeks ago, the tips were clean as new. It took about 3 days for the aphids to attack the tips as strong as ever. I ordered the orthene 97 from amazon and I hope I can take back control. Keep a close watch and don't let them bast**** come back.
Dammit
It may be that the eggs don't easily wash away. Maybe a prompt follow-up with detergent water will prevent the resurgence. Or maybe not.
Looking over some of the plants I sprayed with detergent three evenings ago, nearly all the aphids are dark, crispy critters. There are a few live newbies.
Bob
Looking over some of the plants I sprayed with detergent three evenings ago, nearly all the aphids are dark, crispy critters. There are a few live newbies.
Bob
BarG
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The eggs are tiny white specks barely visible. When they hatch they are tiny brown specks that move so slow it is barely visible . squish one and you know its not dirt or other but organic. I used a soap solution this year in a 2 gallon sprayer and it helped tremendousely. I don't think there is any effects to my tobacco.[My assumption] I will make an ass when I die of soap poisoning. I would purchase the orthene 97 next year. I still see a few adult aphids but no infestations. When I was inspecting for aphids I wiped the white specs and hopefully prevented some.
I see more aphids today than I saw after washing yesterday so they are coming back already. At least I got rid of the accumulation of two months worth of poo and dead aphids. I'll start back with soap this evening on the ones I can see. The Beast is going to bring back some Orthene from town I may try if they start to get out of hand again.
I completely eliminated my aphids this year. At the first sign of aphids I sprayed soapy water on them 3 days in a row , waited 3 days and hit them one more time. No more aphids. I think by spraying as often as I did I eliminated the aphids that I missed on the previous night and their eggs.
Today's patch pictures.
Some of my "pet" plants in containers.
Maryland 609. Damn what a plant. I'll grow a lot of these next year. Don's Maryland 609 makes up 20% of my cigarette blend. They're gorgeous. This one is 6' tall from the dirt to the top.
La Palma Havana. I want to compare these plants to my Hacienda del Cura. Both are from the Canary Islands and Markw and I are curious to see if they are two distinct varieties, or the same variety with two different names. This one is about 4' tall, but it and the MD 609 were planted as an after thought from my back up seedlings.
Colombian Garcia. Cigar Filler variety. 7' tall.
Some of my "pet" plants in containers.
Maryland 609. Damn what a plant. I'll grow a lot of these next year. Don's Maryland 609 makes up 20% of my cigarette blend. They're gorgeous. This one is 6' tall from the dirt to the top.
La Palma Havana. I want to compare these plants to my Hacienda del Cura. Both are from the Canary Islands and Markw and I are curious to see if they are two distinct varieties, or the same variety with two different names. This one is about 4' tall, but it and the MD 609 were planted as an after thought from my back up seedlings.
Colombian Garcia. Cigar Filler variety. 7' tall.
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