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Hello i am from Ontario Canada and am very excited to start this new exsperience is growing my own supply of fine tobacco with your guys help. I hope to find new friends and helpful bolt to help share this experience with.
 

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Welcome to the forum--again. Be sure to read the New Growers' FAQ (link at top), and scan through the Index of Key Forum Threads (link also at top).

Have you put in a crop for the 2019 season?

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Welcome to the forum--again. Be sure to read the New Growers' FAQ (link at top), and scan through the Index of Key Forum Threads (link also at top).

Have you put in a crop for the 2019 season?

Bob
Hi Bob i have not started mine yet, i was trying to find seeds and remembered about this forum. So i just ordered some and am waiting for it. I think i can still make the season over here in canada.
 

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Welcome to FTT, I am sure you will enjoy growing your own tobacco ;)
 

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Hi Bob i have not started mine yet, i was trying to find seeds and remembered about this forum. So i just ordered some and am waiting for it. I think i can still make the season over here in canada.
Down here in the US, the date today is 20 May. If you order seed today, and receive it by 27 May--and start your seed germination that very day, you should have transplantable tobacco by mid-July at the earliest, but more likely the end of July. You might squeeze in the 60 or so days to maturity, before first frost date, but even if you are lucky on the onset of cold, you will find color-curing challenging at that time of year.

In 2018, I transplanted two "orphan" seedlings to the garden on 1 August, just for fun. They were stalk-harvested the evening before first frost. As they hang still in my curing shed, they are both entirely green candela wrapper. Interesting, but not all that useful.

If you are the undaunted sort of person, then go for it. Otherwise, ordering ready starter plants that can be immediately thrown into the ground (even if not the varieties you would prefer) will probably give you a much nicer end result for this year. [Mont Calme jaune {yellow} and Mont Calme brun {brown} are Swiss developed varieties. The brun is Havana derived, while the jaune is burley derived. They make truly huge leaves. But either (or both) will make a passable cigar, as well as a pipe blender.]

For 2020, select and order your seed during the winter, and then begin germination indoors 8 weeks prior to your last frost date. I started my seed for 2019 on 28 Feb, and just transplanted them outdoors this weekend.

Bob

EDIT: Tobacco seed, stored in a totally dry environment, will be good for at least 10 years. Even if you start some seed now, you might also order a few ready starter plants, and grow those as well.
 

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Looks like i am out of luck elensgarden does not have any starter plants for sale atm. Over here is ontario freeze starts aorund september but has gone as far as october the last couple years. That should be ok?
 

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Looks like i am out of luck elensgarden does not have any starter plants for sale atm. Over here is ontario freeze starts aorund september but has gone as far as october the last couple years. That should be ok?
It's possible to get some harvested tobacco before freezing temperatures hit if you start seeds and get good germination, like, today. Likely, you will have time for at least one priming. It may require you to stalk harvest the remainder, as stalk harvesting gives you extra time for the leaves to ripen while on the living stalk.
 

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Elen's still has some burley set to ship end of May.
I'd buy 2 or 4 just for the seeds. It's air-dried too.

I grow burley up here in eastern Quebec. Talk 'bout short growing season.
But hey, tobacco can shrug-off light frost, if covered.
Had a potted one in a cold frame into October. They're tough.
 

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Or, you can try some N. Rustica. Short growing season, small amount of leaves but a very satisfying smoke. If you can pass over the evil smelling cure stage I mean...

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what does it smell like? ammonia? I bought some leaf at wholeleaftabacco.com and i find the dominican and Connecticut varities to my taste. I want to grow what i am used to this year and maybe experience different plant next year and to make sure i start sooner. I thought maybe i would find someone close by on this forum that would invite me over to there grow to teach me a thing or two.
 

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My persistently negative opinion of N. rustica is likely because I failed at adequately color-curing my only crop of it (Sacred Cornplanter in 2012). They were thick and impressive, dinner-plate-size leaves, but I did not allow them to yellow on the plant. (I primed them at the first sign of maturity.) Subsequent kilning, stoving, Periquing etc. never drove away the bad odor.

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Sacred Cornplanter mature leaf and a puro cigar.

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Get some leaf from WLT. The stuff he has is aged. When it comes to cigars I am a little snobbish and want properly aged tobacco which in essence is 5 years. Aged tobacco is important. There is usually a great sale on Black Friday and Big Bonner has some good stuff too. I researched costs and time involved in preparing leaf it works out to almost the same as buying it.
 

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I researched costs and time involved...
If my time is free (Ha!), then an excellent home-grown torro cigar costs me about 27 cents. If I assume minimum wage, then they would wholesale for at least $4 to $5, and retail for double that--per cigar. Rolling them from WLT tobacco runs about $1.25 to $1.50 per stick.

Most Cuban cigars are rolled from tobacco that has aged 18 to 36 months, then rested after rolling for 3 to 6 months. My favorite home-grown cigar varieties suddenly become excellent at about 18 to 24 months, though a few varieties need 3 years or more to become civilized.

Bob
 
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